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Re: Car

Postby Musicwhiz » Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:11 am

Is Car Renting a better idea than owning one?? :roll:

Apr 11, 2010
Rent your wheels

Car-sharing, which is cheaper than buying your own vehicle, becomes more attractive as COE prices rise
By Lin Wenjian

Office manager Diane Gan sold her Hyundai sedan in 2000 and has no plans to buy another car because she says car ownership is too costly.

The 52-year-old tells LifeStyle: 'Including petrol and the regular maintenance, I used to spend more than $1,000 every month on my car.'

But she has not given up driving altogether. Since 2005, she has been a member of car-sharing firm NTUC Income Car Co-op, which is now known as Car Club. Former staff of NTUC Income Car Co-op bought over the operations last July when NTUC decided to wind up the business it started in 1997.

Whenever Madam Gan needs a car for occasions such as weekend outings, she will book one through the company's website.

'Once the booking is confirmed, I walk three to four minutes to a car park near my house to collect the car,' says the mother of a teenage daughter.

That car park is one of 51 collection points or ports that Car Club has set up all over the island. Cars have to be returned to the same port that members collect them from.

As a member of the club, Madam Gan pays an annual fee of $120 and from $10 for every hour that she has the car. She estimates her monthly Car Club bills to be around $350 a month. 'Even when I add the $200 to $250 I spend every month on taking taxis, buses and trains, it is still cheaper than having my own car. And with this Car Club membership, I don't even have to worry about road tax, maintenance or parking charges.'

Mr Lai Meng, director of Car Club, says: 'Members have easy access to our fleet of 83 cars 24 hours a day and they can use the car from one hour to as long as they wish.

'Once reservations by phone or through the Internet are confirmed, an SMS or e-mail is sent to members to confirm their booking, which can be made just 15 minutes before the pick-up time, depending on availability.'

Members scan their membership cards against data readers in the cars to open the doors and retrieve the keys from the glove compartments. Another way is to collect the car keys from a key press located at the ports, also by scanning their membership cards.

Car Club has more than 2,000 members and is the biggest of three car-sharing businesses here.

Another company, KahShare, started operations in 2008 under the rental and leasing division of local Honda distributor Kah Motors. The head of the division, Mr Choong Tat Soon, says: 'We are gearing up for more members in the face of recent cuts in COE quotas.'

He is expecting a 5 to 10 per cent jump in new members 'from now till the COE prices stabilise, which I can't predict'.

Currently, KahShare has 300 members sharing its fleet of 50 cars located in 16 ports across the island.

Since last December, KahShare and Car Club have signed a deal to allow their members to rent cars from both companies.

'By doing this, we open the door to all members to enjoy more ports around Singapore,' Mr Choong explains.

The third player in the car-sharing market, WhizzCar, is a subsidiary of car rental company Popular Rent A Car. It started in 2003 and currently has 2,000 members sharing its fleet of 90 cars located in 34 car parks islandwide.

Its general manager, Mr Ho Kok Kee, is also expecting an increase in membership because of the high COE prices.

'We are now getting 50 to 60 calls a month inquiring about our membership schemes and prices, up from about 40 before the increase in COE prices,' he says.

But there are downsides to driving a car-sharing vehicle. Real estate agent Bernard Shen, 27, who joined then NTUC Car Co-op in 2008, says: 'Cars are not always properly maintained. I once drove a car that smelled of durians.

'And there were times when I wanted to extend my usage of the car at the last minute but couldn't because another member had already booked it.'

There is also the problem of the lack of a suitable car. KahShare member Alvin Ng, 44, says: 'I usually opt for a smaller car such as a Honda Jazz when I book but sometimes it is not available.

'But now there is Car Club, I can book one of their smaller cars if it is available.'

He usually rents a car for a couple of hours on weekends to go out with his wife and son.

Mr Shen gave up his car, a Hyundai Tucson, in 2008 because owning it cost him up to about $1,800 a month. His monthly Car Club bills now 'average between $300 and $800'.

He stresses that 'a car is not a must-have and it is a depreciating asset'.

But during rush hour, he still prefers driving to taking public transport. He says: 'Taking a taxi during peak hours is not worth it, especially if I have many trips to run. So I will try to book a car through Car Club instead.'

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What: Car Club

When: Started last year (took over NTUC Income Car Co-op, which started in 1997)

No. of members: 2,190

No. of cars: 83, mostly Japanese sedans and a few MPVs. Members also have access to 50 cars owned by Honda KahShare

Where: 51 ports islandwide

How to book: Online at http://www.carclub.com.sg or call 6788-1511 (7am to 10pm, Mon to Sat)

How it works: After a booking is confirmed, members go to their chosen port to collect the car key by scanning their membership card against a reader in the car or in a key press

Membership requirements: At least 23 years old, must own driving licence for at least 30 months

Costs: One-time entrance fee of $100, plus annual membership fee of $120. A $100 fully refundable deposit also applies for every rental. Prices start from $10 for the first hour of usage.

Info: http://www.carclub.com.sg, tel: 6848-7900
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What: KahShare

When: Started in 2008

No. of members: 300

No. of cars: 50 Honda hatchbacks, sedans and MPVs. Members also have access to 83 cars owned by Car Club

Where: 16 ports islandwide

How to book: Online at http://www.honda.com.sg/cars/kahshare or call 6840-6858 (24 hours)

How it works: Same as above

Membership requirements: At least 23 years old, must own driving licence for at least 18 months

Costs: One-time entrance fee of $50, plus annual membership fee of $120. A $100 fully refundable deposit also applies for every rental. Prices start from $10 for the first hour of usage.

Info: http://www.honda.com.sg/cars/kahshare, tel: 6840-6858
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What: WhizzCar

When: Started in 2003

No. of members: 2,000

No. of cars: 90, including sedans, MPVs and vans from Toyota, Hyundai and Mitsubishi

Where: 34 ports islandwide

How to book: Online at http://www.whizzcar.com

How it works: Same as above

Membership requirements: 21 to 65 years old and own driving licence for at least one year

Costs: One-time entrance fee of $80, plus monthly membership fee of $10. A $100 fully refundable deposit also applies for every rental. Prices start from $11 for the first hour of usage.

Info: http://www.whizzcar.com, tel: 6742-8888
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Re: Car

Postby millionairemind » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:45 am

Musicwhiz wrote:Is Car Renting a better idea than owning one?? :roll:


It depends la....

Some ppe. drive cars because they want to be associated with a certain class of vehicle.

Some drive cos they think they must cos' they belong to the "elite"

Some drive cos every one else they know is doing it.

Some drive because they enjoy the convenience.

I don't own a car because I dislike driving in Singapore. I don't like to add more stress to my life. :D
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Re: Car

Postby lithium » Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:41 am

mm you are a millionaire who lives a simple life. Simplicity is stress free and therefore happy. ;)
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Re: Car

Postby millionairemind » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:59 pm

lithium wrote:mm you are a millionaire who lives a simple life. Simplicity is stress free and therefore happy. ;)


L bro,

You see me too up liao... :oops: :oops:

I am a common peasant who enjoys the simple life. :)

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Re: Car

Postby kennynah » Sun Apr 11, 2010 4:30 pm

millionairemind wrote:It depends la....

Some ppe. drive cars because they want to be associated with a certain class of vehicle.

Some drive cos they think they must cos' they belong to the "elite"

Some drive cos every one else they know is doing it.

Some drive because they enjoy the convenience.


and there's a group of people who need to drive to be more productive.... salesmen, property agents

a few of my friends bought MPVs becos they considered for their family needs... such as weekend outings when the children were still young...

i agree that it is generally a losing money proposition to buy a car...the depreciation is very severe... but for those who can afford it comfortably, i think it is a choice not dissimilar to spending on a luxurious renovation to one's home...

comfort has a price... and i like to believe most people buy a vehicle not necessarily to show off
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Re: Car 1 (May 08 - May 10)

Postby Aspellian » Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:43 pm

I enjoy driving because of convenience of going to different places. mine is a offpeak car so I drive mainly at night or weekends. so very seldom am i caught in a jam - most expressways are quite smooth - quite stressfree driving (also because i seldom go orchard - its too chaotic there). i am a common man blessed with 4 simple wheels. :lol: :mrgreen:

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Re: Car 1 (May 08 - May 10)

Postby winston » Wed Apr 21, 2010 7:16 am

Ten Tips to Make Your Car Last Longer
While you can't avoid ownership costs, you do have power to make your car last longer and maintain its value.

By Doug Newcomb of MSN Autos

It's important to follow the scheduled maintenance for your car to keep it in top shape.

Getting from point A to point B by car costs a certain amount of dough, and thanks to the U.S. economy it takes more of your hard-earned money than ever before. But while you can’t always control ownership costs such as fuel, repairs and insurance rates, one thing you do have power over is making your car last longer and maintaining its value.

Here you have a choice: Either spend money on a new car every few years or keep your current car running great and looking sharp. If you decide to go the latter route, follow these 10 tips to help keep your ride rolling.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/article. ... tid=498749
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Re: Car 1 (May 08 - May 10)

Postby kennynah » Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:04 pm

this just simply comes to mind...my all time favourite....sip wine...smoke... look up on a starry night.... and listen to this song

pure heaven...

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Re: Car 1 (May 08 - May 10)

Postby millionairemind » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:09 am

Apr 22, 2010
COE prices, new cars fall
By Christopher Tan, Senior Correspondent

PRICES of Certificates of Entitlement (COEs) fell in the latest tender yesterday, as car buyers put off by soaring prices steered clear of showrooms.

COEs for cars up to 1,600cc closed $4,001 lower at $30,000, while that for cars above 1,600cc slipped $5,500 to $40,001.

Open category COEs, which can be used for any vehicle type but end up mainly for cars, fell by $5,997 to $43,003.

Commercial vehicle COEs dipped by $955 to $35,556.

The only category that bucked the trend was motorcycles, where premiums ended $32 higher at $1,253.

Dealers contacted yesterday said lack of demand for cars was the main reason for the fall in premiums.
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Re: Car

Postby winston » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:27 am

winston wrote:People can wait even if they want to buy a new car.


If you have a car, you can wait for the right time to buy one unless the COE on it is expiring soon.

If you dont have a car, you can also wait for the right time to buy one.

So why must you pay a high price for the COE ?
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