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Re: PC & IT

Postby sesdaqfan » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:11 pm

grandrake wrote:BTW, when you say HD crash, you're saying physically screwed, boot up get nothing? Did you try to dual-boot, or did you reformat the hard disk to install your OS?

Could be the Master Boot Record that's corrupted. If so, try a FDISK /MBR when you manage to (somehow) get booted off your USB drive or CDROM drive. Very odd that you can't even boot from the CDROM - check your BIOS just to make sure the settings are correct (can be detected, boot sequence proper, etc.)

This is what happened. The problem pop when i try to partition my HD after I have Ubuntu up and running as a dual mode. Half way thru, warning msg flash and the partitioning clashed I think. Now bootable sector koyak. can't boot from Xp but thru Ubuntu, I get kick out halfway into Unix mode. Type 'help" and it give me a list of command that is alien to me. As my tablet does not come with cdrom, I tried using a PC-card type cdrom which may not work as a bootable drive as i understand. Hence, now exploring whether I can reformat my HD again and this time better do a good partitioning.
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Re: PC & IT

Postby blid2def » Sun Aug 17, 2008 6:58 pm

Woah, sounds chim. Oh PC Card CDRom drive... hmm, unless BIOS supports booting off it... else tak boleh jalan...
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Re: PC & IT

Postby ehchang » Mon Aug 18, 2008 2:11 pm

sesdaqfan wrote:
grandrake wrote:BTW, when you say HD crash, you're saying physically screwed, boot up get nothing? Did you try to dual-boot, or did you reformat the hard disk to install your OS?

Could be the Master Boot Record that's corrupted. If so, try a FDISK /MBR when you manage to (somehow) get booted off your USB drive or CDROM drive. Very odd that you can't even boot from the CDROM - check your BIOS just to make sure the settings are correct (can be detected, boot sequence proper, etc.)

This is what happened. The problem pop when i try to partition my HD after I have Ubuntu up and running as a dual mode. Half way thru, warning msg flash and the partitioning clashed I think. Now bootable sector koyak. can't boot from Xp but thru Ubuntu, I get kick out halfway into Unix mode. Type 'help" and it give me a list of command that is alien to me. As my tablet does not come with cdrom, I tried using a PC-card type cdrom which may not work as a bootable drive as i understand. Hence, now exploring whether I can reformat my HD again and this time better do a good partitioning.


if it is only the bootable sector and you are using grub boot loader(usually is), can try the following after you have the unix mode :

grub -- to get into grub enviroment.
find /boot/vmlinuz -- return the boot disk, eg hd0,1.
root (hd0,1) -- assuming hd0,1 contain your linux boot.
setup (hd0,1) -- should setup the necessary file to boot.
quit -- exit grub mode.

i copy this from somewhere in my notebook, hope it help.
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Re: PC & IT

Postby sesdaqfan » Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:06 pm

Hi,
Just back to my Pc and saw your post. Will try it out. Thanks.
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Re: PC & IT

Postby sesdaqfan » Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:00 am

Hi Ehchang,
Somehow it does not recognise the grub command. It says (initfamfs) and i donno what what is. Anyway thanks for the help.
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Re: PC & IT

Postby ehchang » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:13 am

sorry, i also donno. this is the problem with me, only picks up some info here and there, but cannot understand the whole system.

maybe ubuntu fails to recognise some file system. why don't you try install ubuntu again without disturbing your xp.
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Re: PC & IT

Postby la papillion » Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:59 am

ehchang wrote:sorry, i also donno. this is the problem with me, only picks up some info here and there, but cannot understand the whole system.

maybe ubuntu fails to recognise some file system. why don't you try install ubuntu again without disturbing your xp.


Haha, ubuntu...actually wanted to install it. Just before I started, I had this cow sense in me to check forums for their comments (esp the bad ones) and I decided against it. Why risk something that works for something that I don't need? Hence I didn't and I'm still happy with that. Unbuntu doesn't always crash on pple, just that when it happens, the results can be quite disastrous and adds a lot of frustration..

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Re: PC & IT

Postby blid2def » Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:09 am

You can say that for any OS lah. A sick OS is one that makes you reboot when you install a new application, patch, device, etc. each time.
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Re: PC & IT

Postby sesdaqfan » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:02 pm

la papillion wrote:
ehchang wrote:sorry, i also donno. this is the problem with me, only picks up some info here and there, but cannot understand the whole system.

maybe ubuntu fails to recognise some file system. why don't you try install ubuntu again without disturbing your xp.


Haha, ubuntu...actually wanted to install it. Just before I started, I had this cow sense in me to check forums for their comments (esp the bad ones) and I decided against it. Why risk something that works for something that I don't need? Hence I didn't and I'm still happy with that. Unbuntu doesn't always crash on pple, just that when it happens, the results can be quite disastrous and adds a lot of frustration..

Good fortune to those who installs it! :)


Hi Papy,
Can you give me the URL for those forums that have bad review on Ubuntu? Just checked with HP and they want 95 bucks just to install back the XP for my tablet :oops:
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Re: PC & IT

Postby kennynah » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:35 pm

grandrake wrote:You can say that for any OS lah. A sick OS is one that makes you reboot when you install a new application, patch, device, etc. each time.



eh...that's what i always had to do....reboot after installing applications...hahaha..
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