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Re: Bitcoins

Postby iam802 » Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:06 am

Getting very confusing.

Is the IRS in this because they want to 'profit' from it or is it because they want to 'put a stop' to it?

If bitcoin is property, how about stuffs like art, diamonds? Are they taxable?

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UPDATE 3-Bitcoins are property, not currency, IRS says regarding taxes

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/ ... L820140325

* IRS: Wages, other payments in virtual currency are taxable

* IRS: Gain, loss treatment depends on capital asset status

* Senator Carper: IRS provides tax clarity on bitcoin (Adds quotes, details)

By Kevin Drawbaugh and Patrick Temple-West

WASHINGTON, March 25 (Reuters) - Wading into a murky tax question for the digital age, the U.S. Internal Revenue Service said on Tuesday that bitcoins and other virtual currencies are to be treated, for tax purposes, as property and not as currency.

"General tax principles that apply to property transactions apply to transactions using virtual currency," the IRS said in a statement, meaning that bitcoins would be taxed as ordinary income or as assets subject to capital gains taxes, depending on the circumstance.

Bitcoin, the best-known virtual currency, started circulating in 2009. Its present market value is around $8 billion, with up to 80,000 transactions occurring daily, according to accounting firm PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP.

Recent incidents have brought the currency under new regulatory scrutiny, such as the failure of Mt. Gox, a Tokyo-based exchange that filed for bankruptcy after losing an estimated $650 million worth of customer bitcoins.

Unlike conventional money, bitcoin is generated by computers and is independent of control or backing by any government or central bank, which its proponents like, but which also has led to calls for more guidance on U.S. tax treatment.

The IRS supplied that in its statement, which dealt a blow to bitcoin "miners," who unlock new bitcoins online. The IRS said miners must include the fair market value of the virtual currency as gross income on the date of receipt.

This change "is a disincentive to start looking for bitcoins," said John Barrie, a partner with law firm Bryan Cave LLP, who advises charities that receive bitcoins as donations.

NOT LEGAL TENDER

The IRS also said that virtual currency is not to be treated as legal-tender currency to determine if a transaction causes a foreign currency gain or loss under U.S. tax law.

For other forms of gains or losses involving virtual currency, the IRS explained how to determine the U.S. dollar value of virtual currency and said taxable gains or losses can be incurred in related property transactions.

"The character of gain or loss from the sale or exchange of virtual currency depends on whether the virtual currency is a capital asset in the hands of the taxpayer," the IRS said.

If a taxpayer holds virtual currency as capital - like stocks or bonds or other investment property - gains or losses are realized as capital gains or losses, the agency said.

However, when virtual currency is held as inventory or other property mainly for sale to customers in a trade or business, ordinary gains or losses are generally incurred, the IRS said.

Capital gains and losses are taxable and deductible at different rates and amounts than ordinary gains and losses.

Democratic Senator Tom Carper, who chaired a Senate committee hearing last year on bitcoin, said in a statement that the IRS guidance "provides clarity for taxpayers who want to ensure that they're doing the right thing and playing by the rules when utilizing bitcoin and other digital currencies."

MINERS HURT

New bitcoins come from a process called mining. Computer programmers around the world compete to crack an automatically generated code and the first to do so is rewarded with a small stash. This happens about every 10 minutes.

Some online retailers will accept bitcoins as payment. The maximum potential number of bitcoins in circulation is 21 million, compared with around 12 million currently.

On the IRS guidance, William Lewis, a lawyer in Sunnyvale, California, who represents a start-up company creating a platform for virtual currencies, said: "This is going to be unfavorable to bitcoin miners because they're going to have to include in income the fair market value of the virtual currency on the date they mined it.

"It's going to make life difficult for a lot of people who have been mining over the past year, who have to go back and see what the values were on those dates when they mined it."

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Re: Bitcoins

Postby behappyalways » Thu Mar 27, 2014 11:47 am

Mt.Gox clients are hopeless about their bitcoins
http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/26/technol ... d=HP_River
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Re: Bitcoins

Postby iam802 » Fri Mar 28, 2014 6:18 am

Last support line

Note: Last 2 charts that I share, there seems to be some difference. One shows below kumo like the one that I am posting now. Another shows above kumo.


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Re: Bitcoins

Postby behappyalways » Fri Mar 28, 2014 11:55 am

PBOC Rule Means Bitcoin Websites in China Must Close, Expert Says
http://english.caixin.com/2014-03-27/100657518.html
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Re: Bitcoins

Postby iam802 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 10:40 pm

Bitcoin counter trend rally.


http://tradingichimoku.com/2014/04/15/b ... esistance/

China's regulation to close the accounts is on April 15.

With this passing, does that means that the selling has stop?

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1. Resistance at $501

2. Current trend bearish; below kumo

3. Leading kumo flattening; suggest consolidation.
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Re: Bitcoins

Postby iam802 » Sun May 04, 2014 12:24 pm

Bearish trend. Below kumo. Price consolidation.

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$BTCUSD . Bitcoin needs to trade above $490

http://tradingichimoku.com/2014/05/04/b ... above-490/

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Re: Bitcoins

Postby iam802 » Mon May 19, 2014 12:07 pm

Bitcoin ETF on the way..?

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Bitcoin Bingo: What Ticker Will the Winklevii Pick for Their ETF?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-1 ... -etf-.html

Last week the most anticipated/hyped/controversial ETF filing of the last 10 years -- the Winklevoss Bitcoin Trust -- moved a step closer to becoming reality, announcing it had chosen to list on Nasdaq. Though it's still hard to imagine that a bitcoin exchange-traded fund will be approved by the Securities and Exchange Commission, given its multitude of unique risks, it's made it this far and can't be laughed off.

That won't stop us from trying.

Do bitcoins belong in an investor-friendly ETF wrapper? In fairness, my colleague Matt Miller of Bloomberg TV made a good point, noting that "You can (already) blow your head off with an ETF anytime you want! You can triple up leverage!" The SEC has approved about 250 leveraged and inverse ETFs that arguably have more volatility and potential for investor misuse worse than a bitcoin ETF. (For more on the topic, see Grandma Gets to Play Hedge Fund with New Credit Derivatives ETFs.)

If the Winklevoss twins get that far, they'll need to pick a ticker. Matt suggests the Winklevoss Treasury Fund, arguing that the ETF "will really just serve to fill their coffers." And that ticker's available.

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Re: Bitcoins

Postby behappyalways » Sat May 31, 2014 12:39 pm

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Re: Bitcoins

Postby iam802 » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:56 pm

$BTCUSD . Bullish trend. Minor pullback

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Bitcoin, $BTCUSD, has rallied past its resistance from the kumo and is in a pretty steep upward bulls rally.

As it hits $658 region, it will face a minor resistance from the Chikou Span formed back in March.

I expect $BTCUSD to pull back first to $604 and second support at $558.

Part of this rally could be due to Apple being open to virtual currencies in its App Store.

With such acceptance, it is likely that $BTCUSD will form a base and will be ready to head higher.



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Re: Bitcoins

Postby behappyalways » Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:09 pm

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