Goldman Sachs (GS) 01 (Jun 08 - Apr 10)

[winston]

TOL:-

Wonder who else would also be suing them ?

[LenaHuat]

Cordray, Ohio State's AG has just spoken on CNBC that he is watching this SEC v GS case with great concern. On 7 April 2010, he had just won a US$9 million suit against AIG for fraud. He said that it would be his fiduciary duty to go after GS to recover dues for the state's pension funds.

Now, there's 49 other states' pension funds + UK + Germany............
The cameras have just started rolling

[kennynah]

i think it was the same congress man who spoke vehemently against SEC/Bernanke/Geithner 2 days ago when they were probed about lehman bros debacle...

of cos, we would expect other congressmen/women to do the same to try to recoup fraudulently lost monies...but i think as in politics, representatives are not always representing the interests of their constituents..

in other words...wayang act...i'm surely very familiar with such pomp pomp...it should not be long before i see MPs/Ministers/PM/SMs/M&Ms photographed eating at a neighbourhood hawker centre... meesiam mai hum

[LenaHuat]

Hi K
No, Conray is Ohio's Attorney General.
I was wondering why President Obama chose to speak at Cooper Union.
Here's why:-
http://gothamist.com/2008/03/27/bloomberg_will_4.php

[iam802]

Going off-topic from GS.

If Bloomberg does intend to run for Presidency, he don't even need to do any fund raising.

I think 1 year of his revenue (or profit) share in the business is enough.

[kennynah]

so can WB, Gates, Paulson and many other billionaires if bush can be president, any thug can be too

[iam802]

Goldman CEO visited Whitehouse 4 times...

Read here (article too long)
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/04/21/9 ... white.html

[millionairemind]

Apr 24, 2010
Goldman execs plan denial

WASHINGTON - TOP Goldman Sachs executives are preparing to tell Congress they were unsure whether US housing prices would rise or fall and did not take any action at odds with the interests of its clients, The Washington Post reported on Saturday.

In a move that shocked Wall Street, the US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) charged Goldman Sachs with fraud earlier this month, sending the company's share price into a tailspin.

The SEC accused Wall Street investment giant Goldman Sachs of 'defrauding investors by mis-stating and omitting key facts' about a product based on subprime, or higher-risk mortgage-backed securities.

The company has vigorously denied any wrongdoing and sought to defend its reputation as Wall Street's most stable finance house. Goldman chief executive Lloyd Blankfein is scheduled to testify before the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations next Tuesday.

In advance of this testimony, Goldman prepared the 11-page internal document that was obtained by The Post. The paper attempts to deflect criticism that the bank invested its own money betting against the housing market while simultaneously urging clients to invest in securities that would increase in value only if the housing market did, the report said.

It describes debates among top executives in 2006 and 2007 over whether the firm should make investment decisions based on the belief that the mortgage market would continue to prosper, the paper noted. The document also details meetings and e-mails that ultimately resulted in a decision to reduce the company's exposure to the mortgage market, especially subprime loans. -- AFP

[millionairemind]

Published April 26, 2010

GOLDMAN SACHS SUIT
Goldman execs cheered housing collapse

Senate releases documents ahead of CEO's testimony

(WASHINGTON) As the US housing market started to slide, executives at the most legendary investment bank on Wall Street were trading e-mails in which they cheered the declines, even when those declines meant some of their clients were taking major losses, according to newly released documents.
Put on the block: One exec wrote that the 'good news' was that Goldman would profit US$5m from a bet against the very same bundles of loans it had helped create

The documents show that executives at Goldman Sachs were celebrating earlier decisions in which they bet against the housing market, a Senate investigative committee found. In a fall 2007 e-mail, for example, top mortgage trader Michael Swenson was gleeful that credit-rating companies downgraded mortgage-related investments, which caused losses for investors.

'Sounds like we will make some serious money,' Mr Swenson wrote.

Lawmakers said the internal e-mails, released on Saturday by the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, contradict Goldman's assertions that the bank was not trying to make big profits off the decline of the housing market in 2007 and was merely seeking to protect itself if prices collapsed.

With Goldman chief executive Lloyd Blankfein and fellow executives coming to Washington tomorrow to testify before the Senate panel, this weekend's sparring over whether the firm sought to exploit the historic decline in housing prices underscored the intensifying clash between Washington and Wall Street.

President Barack Obama and congressional Democrats are pushing hard to finalise legislation in Congress that would much more strictly regulate the activities of Goldman and other Wall Street firms.

The full Senate could begin to debate financial reform legislation - already passed by the House - as early as today.

Mr Obama sharply rebuked Wall Street in his radio address on Saturday. 'In the absence of common-sense rules, Wall Street firms took enormous, irresponsible risks that imperiled our financial system - and hurt just about every sector of our economy,' he said.

The findings of the Senate committee come as Goldman is also facing a fraud suit, filed earlier this month by the Securities and Exchange Commission, alleging that the bank misled its clients by selling them a mortgage investment that was secretly designed to fail.

The Senate committee's findings do not touch directly on the fraud suit but suggest that Goldman's behaviour in that case was indicative of a larger pattern of duplicitous conduct on the eve of the economy's collapse.

'Investment banks such as Goldman Sachs ... were self-interested promoters of risky and complicated financial schemes that helped trigger the crisis,' said Senator Carl Levin, chairman of the Senate committee. 'They bundled toxic mortgages into complex financial instruments, got the credit rating agencies to label them as AAA securities, and sold them to investors, magnifying and spreading risk throughout the financial system and all too often betting against the instruments they sold and profiting at the expense of their clients.'

Until recently, Goldman largely escaped the fallout from the financial crisis, quickly repaid federal aid and didn't receive the kind of scrutiny and blame that Washington had showered on such firms as Countrywide Financial, Lehman Brothers, and Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Countrywide and Lehman are out of business, and Fannie and Freddie are under federal control.

By contrast, Goldman is financially stronger and denies the allegations that it committed fraud or acted inappropriately.

'We did not make a significant amount of money in the mortgage market,' Lucas van Praag, a Goldman spokesman, said on Saturday. Mr Van Praag said Goldman, which turned over 18 million pages of documents to the Senate committee, lost US$1.2 billion in its mortgage business in 2008. 'As a firm, we obviously could not have been significantly net short since we lost money in a declining housing market,' Mr Van Praag said.

Mr Levin said the documents obtained by his committee contradict Goldman's assertion that it didn't seek to profit from the housing downturn. 'Goldman made a lot of money by betting against the mortgage market,' Mr Levin said.

In one of the e-mails obtained by the committee, Goldman's chief financial officer, David Viniar, responded to a report that the firm earned US$50 million in one day with 'short' positions, or bets that the housing market would decline. 'Tells you what might be happening to people who don't have the big short,' Mr Viniar wrote to his colleagues.

In another e-mail, Goldman executives discussed how the securities of one sub-prime mortgage lender the company worked with was facing 'wipeout' and another collapse was 'imminent.' Goldman helped this lender bundle and sell its loans to investors. But one executive, Deeb Salem, wrote that the 'good news' was that Goldman would profit US$5 million from a bet against the very same bundles of loans it had helped create.

In a November 2007 e-mail, Mr Blankfein wrote that the firm 'lost money' on the housing market, 'then made more than we lost because of shorts.'

The e-mails portray a different narrative than the one Goldman conveys in an internal document summarising the company's experience in the mortgage crisis. -- LAT-WP

[greenhoney]

the banks couldnt control what execs are talking and emailling amongst themselves rite? as i am sure even those in the collapsed lehman shorted stocks before everything went supernova.

their fault is to bundle 'shite' up and selling them on to unknowing public and 'put' a triple AAA rating on top. that for me, is pure unbridled greed and probably a felony.