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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:50 am

Should I Leave or Should I Stay...?

It is very empowering to discover that your patterns of thought do not have to follow your current situation, and therefore your current situation (on all subjects) can change. . . .

We do not recommend taking the physical action of leaving a relationship without deliberately coming into thought alignment with the new desires that have been born out of your current relationship. And then - whether you stay in this relationship or move on to another - you can have exactly what you desire.

--- Abraham

Excerpted from Abraham's newest book, The Vortex, Where the Law of Attraction Assembles All Cooperative Relationships
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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:36 am

Ignorance is the utter lack of self-knowing

Ignorance exists even though one may have great knowledge, a good education, be sophisticated, have capacity in the exercise of which one achieves fame, notoriety, money.

Ignorance is not dispelled by the accumulation of a great many facts and much information—the computer can do all that better than the human mind. Ignorance is the utter lack of self-knowing.

Most of us are superficial, shallow, have so much sorrow and ignorance as part of our lot. Again, this is not an exaggeration, not an assumption, but an actual fact of our daily existence.

We are ignorant of ourselves and therein lies great sorrow. That ignorance breeds every form of superstition, it perpetuates fear, engenders hope and despair and all the inventions and theories of a clever mind. So ignorance not only breeds sorrow, but brings about great confusion in ourselves.

Talks with American Students, p 171

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:44 pm

The Law of Attraction Assembles Happy Relationships...

Asking your relationship with any other to be the basis of buoying you up is never a good idea, because the Law of Attraction cannot bring to you something different from the way you feel.

The Law of Attraction cannot bring you a well-balanced, happy person if you are not yourself already that. The Law of Attraction, no matter what you do or say, will bring to you those who predominantly match the person who you predominantly are.

Everything that everyone desires is for one reason only: they believe they will feel better in the having of it. We just want you to understand that you must feel better before it can come to you.

In simple terms, if you are not happy with yourself, or with your life, the attraction of a partner will only exaggerate the discord, because any action taken from a place of lack is always counterproductive.

--- Abraham

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:30 am

What is the attitude that we should develop towards the faculties we are gifted with?

The Headmaster of a school is a good example of the attitude we should develop. While always aware that the chairs, tables and benches are not his, he nevertheless knows it is his duty to see that no item of furniture or equipment is lost or damaged, that it is all handed over intact when he leaves.

Therefore he keeps vigilant, though unattached. The senses, the intellect, the heart, the mind - these are the furniture put in your charge; look after them with care. If any is damaged by oversight, make the appropriate entry in the list, explain the circumstances and crave for Grace.

- Sathya Sai Speaks, Vol. 2.

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:58 pm

Very deep. Need to reread it a few times ...

The impermanency of the self

Realizing the impermanency of the self, there are those who say the permanent is to be found by throwing off the many layers of the self, which requires time, and so to reincarnate is necessary.

The self, the result of craving, the cause of ignorance and sorrow, continues, as we observe; but to understand it and to transcend it, we must not think in terms of time. Through time the timeless is not realized. Is not this approach to reality through gradualism, through slow evolutionary process, through birth and death, erroneous?

Is it not the rationalization of conditioned thought, of postponement, of laziness and ignorance? This idea of gradualism exists, does it not, because we do not think-feel directly and simply. We choose a satisfactory explanation, a rationalization of our confused and lazy effort.

Through conditioned thinking, through postponement, can the real be discovered? The self, the cause of ignorance and sorrow - can it gradually through time become perfect? Or through time can the self dissolve itself? That which is in its very nature the cause of ignorance - can it become enlightened?

Must it not cease to be before there can be light? Is its cessation a matter of time, a horizontal process, or is enlightenment only possible when thought-feeling abandons this horizontal process of time and so can think-feel vertically, directly?

Along this horizontal path of time, of postponement, of ignorance, truth is not; it is to be found vertically at any point along the horizontal process if thought-feeling can step out of it, freeing itself from craving and time.

This freedom is not dependent on time but on the intensity of awareness and the fullness of self-knowledge.

Collected Works Vol. 3 1936-1944

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby greenhoney » Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:12 pm

knowledge is passive, intellectual
suffering is active, personal

no intellectual answer will solve suffering.
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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:51 am

What are the three cardinal principles each one should follow?

Each one should observe three principles in life - Love for the Divine, Fear of Sin and Morality in Society.

You should realize that he or she is the Individual Soul as well as the Divine, and Society is also an aspect of this Divine Principle.

Lack of fear of sin in human beings is the root cause of absence of morality in society. One bereft of morality is not a human being at all. So, for everything, morality is very important.

The Divine loves all. If one has love in him, there will certainly be unity in society. People indulge in sinful deeds, in spite of knowing that the Divine can give them punishment. They have no fear of sin. If everybody has fear of sin, then there will be morality in the society.

- Divine Discourse, 6 July 2009.

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby helios » Sun Sep 06, 2009 8:39 am

On Thurs and Fri evenings, I was at the local hospital to visit one of my inventors.

Sadly, he came up with many medical inventions and founded a startup company. Time for him is limited as he is now sickened with liver cancer (as you have known liver cancer is one of the most aggressive cancers with low prognosis) ... What would you do if you were him?

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby winston » Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:39 pm

The lack of comprehension of oneself is ignorance

The lack of comprehension of oneself is ignorance. That is, one must discern how one has come into being, what one is, all the tendencies, the reactions, the hidden motives, the self-imposed beliefs and pursuits.

Until each one deeply understands this, there can be no cessation of sorrow, and the confusion of divided action, as economic and religious, public and private, will continue.

The human problems that now disturb us will disappear only when each one is able to discern the self-sustaining process of ignorance. To discern needs patience and constant awareness.

Collected Works Vol. 3 1936-1944

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Re: Life (Aug09 - Sep09)

Postby kennynah » Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:46 pm

The lack of comprehension of oneself is ignorance ...


and they say...to be ignorant is bliss... :lol:
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