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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:25 am

Spontaneous comprehension

We never say, “Let me see what that thing is that suffers.”

You cannot see by enforcement, by discipline. You must look with interest, with spontaneous comprehension. Then you will see that the thing we call suffering, pain, the thing that we avoid, and the discipline, have all gone.

As long as I have no relationship to the thing as outside me, the problem is not; the moment I establish a relationship with it outside me, the problem is.

As long as I treat suffering as something outside—I suffer because I lost my brother, because I have no money, because of this or that—I establish a relationship to it and that relationship is fictitious.

But if I am that thing, if I see the fact, then the whole thing is transformed, it all has a different meaning.

Then there is full attention, integrated attention and that which is completely regarded is understood and dissolved, and so there is no fear and therefore the word sorrow is non-existent.

The Book of Life, July 27, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:29 am

When spirituality is all about making the mind still, why should we control the body too?

In a vessel filled with some water, when the vessel moves, water also moves. If the vessel is steady, the water will also be steady and you can see your own image! But if the water shakes, your image too shakes.

Similarly, to meditate, you must keep your body still. Your body is like the vessel, and your mind is the water inside. If your body moves, your mind inside will be agitated. Therefore, control your mind and make it steady by keeping your back straight and body steady.

The Kundalini power travels from the base of the spinal column, to the crown of the head. Therefore, head, neck and body must be straight, with no bends.

This is extremely important for students and seekers. I often ask students, "Why do you study? To become steady!" From young age, keep your body under control, you can achieve very useful things in life!

- Divine Discourse, Sep 12, 1984.

The person filled with love has peace of mind, is pure at heart and will be steady,
unruffled by any adverse circumstances, failures or losses.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:29 am

When spirituality is all about making the mind still, why should we control the body too?

In a vessel filled with some water, when the vessel moves, water also moves. If the vessel is steady, the water will also be steady and you can see your own image! But if the water shakes, your image too shakes.

Similarly, to meditate, you must keep your body still. Your body is like the vessel, and your mind is the water inside. If your body moves, your mind inside will be agitated. Therefore, control your mind and make it steady by keeping your back straight and body steady.

The Kundalini power travels from the base of the spinal column, to the crown of the head. Therefore, head, neck and body must be straight, with no bends.

This is extremely important for students and seekers. I often ask students, "Why do you study? To become steady!" From young age, keep your body under control, you can achieve very useful things in life!

- Divine Discourse, Sep 12, 1984.

The person filled with love has peace of mind, is pure at heart and will be steady,
unruffled by any adverse circumstances, failures or losses.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:35 pm

Know when not to cooperate

Reformers, political, social, and religious, will only cause more sorrow for man, unless man understands the workings of his own mind.

In the understanding of the total process of the mind, there is a radical, inward revolution, and from that inward revolution springs the action of true cooperation, which is not cooperation with a pattern, with authority, with somebody who “knows.”

When you know how to cooperate because there is this inward revolution, then you will also know when not to cooperate, which is really very important, perhaps more important.

We now cooperate with any person who offers a reform, a change, which only perpetuates conflict and misery.

But if we can know what it is to have the spirit of cooperation that comes into being with the understanding of the total process of the mind and in which there is freedom from the self, then there is a possibility of creating a new civilization, a totally different world in which there is no acquisitiveness, no envy, no comparison.

This is not a theoretical utopia but the actual state of the mind that is constantly inquiring and pursuing that which is true and blessed.

The Book of Life, November 5, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:36 am

Is there such a thing as a soul?

So to understand this question of death, we must be rid of fear which invents the various theories of afterlife or immortality or reincarnation.

So we say, those in the East say, that there is reincarnation, there is a rebirth, a constant renewal going on and on and on—the soul, the so-called soul. Now please listen carefully.

Is there such a thing? We like to think there is such a thing, because it gives us pleasure, because that is something which we have set beyond thought, beyond words, beyond; it is something eternal, spiritual, that can never die, and so thought clings to it.

But is there such a thing, as a soul, which is something beyond time, something beyond thought, something which is not invented by man, something which is beyond the nature of man, something which is not put together by the cunning mind?

Because the mind sees such enormous uncertainty, confusion, nothing permanent in life—nothing. Your relationship to your wife, your husband, your job— nothing is permanent.

And so the mind invents a something which is permanent, which it calls the soul. But since the mind can think about it, thought can think about it; as thought can think about it, it is still within the field of time—naturally.

If I can think about something, it is part of my thought. And my thought is the result of time, of experience, of knowledge. So, the soul is still within the field of time...

So the idea of a continuity of a soul which will be reborn over and over and over again has no meaning because it is the invention of a mind that is frightened, of a mind that wants, that seeks a duration through permanency, that wants certainty, because in that there is hope.

The Book of Life, November 19, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:39 am

Most of us worry or are afraid of someone, something or perhaps the future. What is the root-cause for such anxiety and how can we overcome them?

When you suspect the strength of the foundation of a house, you are afraid to enter it; when you suspect the skill of the manufacturer, you are nervous to ride in the car.

The present times have become an age of fear, anxiety and ashanti (absence of peace) because people do not have deep faith in the Divine.

In ancient times, the wise ones knew that the Divine is the basis for all creation and had no fear at all.

In recent times, Mahatma Gandhi relied on the the Divine's Grace and His Might and won freedom for the Nation.

Know that the Divine is the unseen foundation on which your life is built. He is your source, sustenance and strength. Without His Will, no leaf can turn, no blade of grass can quiver.

What firmer foundation can you desire than this? Having known the Divine, the Omnipotent Power as the mainspring of your life, you should not fear any more!

- Divine Discourse, Dec 8, 1964.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:09 am

How can we establish ourselves in the presence of the Divine at all times?

The search for truth must become your daily spiritual discipline; every moment must be used for this primary duty.

Truth can reflect itself in your intelligence only, when your intelligence is purified by penance. Penance means all acts undertaken with higher motives, all activities indicating yearning for the spirit, repentance for past blunders, staunch determination to adhere to virtue and self-control, and finally, serene equanimity in the face of success or failure.

It is penance that fosters renunciation and discipline. This discipline is essential when the temptations to deviate are so many like it is now.

In this iron age, when darkness is enveloping the mind of people, any little lamp that can light the steps is most welcome. That is why you should resort to good deeds, good conduct, and good behaviour, so that you are constantly established in the presence of the Divine.

- Divine Discourse, Nov 23, 1965.

Command the mind, regulate your conduct, and keep your heart straight and clear, then you will get the grace of the Divine.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:36 am

The way of meditation

Is truth something final, absolute, fixed? We would like it to be absolute because then we could take shelter in it. We would like it to be permanent because then we could hold on to it, find happiness in it. But is truth absolute, continuous, to be experienced over and over again?

The repetition of experience is the mere cultivation of memory, is it not? In moments of quietness, I may experience a certain truth, but if I cling to that experience through memory and make it absolute, fixed—is that truth?

Is truth the continuation, the cultivation of memory? Or, is truth to be found only when the mind is utterly still?

When the mind is not caught in memories, not cultivating memory as the centre of recognition, but is aware of everything I am saying, everything I am doing in my relationships, in my activities, seeing the truth of everything as it is from moment to moment—surely, that is the way of meditation, is it not?

There is comprehension only when the mind is still, and the mind cannot be still as long as it is ignorant of itself. That ignorance is not dispelled through any form of discipline, through pursuing any authority, ancient or modern.

Belief only creates resistance, isolation, and where there is isolation, there is no possibility of tranquillity.

Tranquillity comes only when I understand the whole process of myself—the various entities in conflict with each other which compose the “me.”

As that is an arduous task, we turn to others to learn various tricks which we call meditation.

The tricks of the mind are not meditation. Meditation is the beginning of self-knowledge, and without meditation, there is no self-knowledge.

The Book of Life, December 26, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:41 am

How can we see the Divine as the immortal spirit within us?

What a pitiable fate is this? The little ego in man, is fed into a huge conflagration by the mind and the senses, and one is caught in the fire of distress.

Egoism makes a person see glory in petty achievements, happiness in trivial acquisitions, and joy in temporary authority over others. But, the Immortal within, is awaiting discovery to confer bliss and liberation from birth and death.

There is a definite technique by which the Immortal spark can be discovered. Though it may appear difficult, each step forward makes the next one easier and a mind made ready by discipline, in a flash discovers that the Divine is the basis of creation.

There is no shortcut to this consummation. You must give up all the impediments you have accumulated so far and become light for the journey.

Lust, greed, anger, malice, conceit, envy, hate - all these pet tendencies must be shed.

- Divine Discourse, Dec 8, 1964.

True devotion really means installing the Divine in the heart and enjoying the bliss of that experience.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:08 am

Freedom from the self

To free the mind from all conditioning, you must see the totality of it without thought.

This is not a conundrum; experiment with it and you will see. Do you ever see anything without thought? Have you ever listened, looked, without bringing in this whole process of reaction?

You will say that it is impossible to see without thought; you will say no mind can be unconditioned. When you say that, you have already blocked yourself by thought, for the fact is you do not know.

So can I look, can the mind be aware of its conditioning? I think it can. Please experiment.

Can you be aware that you are a Hindu, a Socialist, a Communist, this or that, just be aware without saying that it is right or wrong? Because it is such a difficult task just to see, we say it is impossible.

I say it is only when you are aware of this totality of your being without any reaction that the conditioning goes, totally, deeply—which is really the freedom from the self.

The Book of Life, May 23, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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