Life 31 (Oct 18 - Jan 19)

Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:01 pm

Can happiness be found through anything?

We seek happiness through things, through relationship, through thoughts, ideas. So things, relationship, and ideas become all-important and not happiness.

When we seek happiness through something, then the thing becomes of greater value than happiness itself.

When stated in this manner, the problem sounds simple and it is simple. We seek happiness in property, in family, in name; then property, family, idea become all-important, for then happiness is sought through a means, and then the means destroys the end.

Can happiness be found through any means, through anything made by the hand or by the mind? Things, relationship, and ideas are so transparently impermanent, we are ever made unhappy by them...

Things are impermanent, they wear out and are lost; relationship is constant friction and death awaits; ideas and beliefs have no stability, no permanency. We seek happiness in them and yet do not realize their impermanency. So sorrow becomes our constant companion and overcoming it our problem.

To find out the true meaning of happiness, we must explore the river of self-knowledge. Self-knowledge is not an end in itself. Is there a source to a stream? Every drop of water from the beginning to the end makes the river.

To imagine that we will find happiness at the source is to be mistaken. It is to be found where you are on the river of self-knowledge.

The Book of Life, July 5 Harper San Francisco, 1994

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:43 am

Sometimes, we feel that the Divine has been unkind or inconsiderate or illogical. Is that correct objectively?

What can you achieve with your paltry intelligence?

A man once laughed at the Divine for giving the majestic banyan tree a tiny seed and conferring on the ash gourd, a gigantic fruit. “No sense of proportion,” he thought!

He was travelling, and as time passed, he felt tired and happened to sleep under the shade of a banyan tree. When he woke up, he saw many seeds that had fallen on his body.

If only the banyan tree had seeds in proportion to its size, a single seed falling from that height would have killed the critic in no time! He thanked the Divine for His perfect logic and wisdom and continued the journey, feeling safe and secure.

Take everything as it comes, and cultivate contentment. Do not multiply your wants and foster greed and despair.

You take off your warm clothing when you start feeling warm yourself. The coat of desire has to be taken off when the warmth of devotion increases. Strive to secure grace, do not strive to secure any lesser fruit.

- Divine Discourse, Oct 4, 1962.

Love is selflessness.

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:55 am

What should we introspect?

When selfishness and self-interest are rampant, people forget kindness and compassion.

When the forces of injustice, immorality and untruth, grow to monstrous proportions and indulge in a death-dance, the Divine, takes on the form to suppress and win over the dark forces of evil, and protect good qualities.

Ask yourself, has the Divine destroyed the 10 demons within you? Arrogance, bad thoughts, lust, anger, delusion, greed, pride, envy, ego, and hatred are the demons that must be destroyed.

You must decide for yourself whether you are now a Demon or Divine, according to your qualities!

From today, lead your life with selfless love and live in peace and joy!

- Divine Discourse, Oct 18, 1991.

When animal feelings are washed out, Divine feelings begin to flow freely.

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:10 am

Why is one thoughtless?

The thinker thinks his thoughts through habit, through repetition, through copying, which brings ignorance and sorrow. Is not habit thoughtlessness?

Awareness creates order, but it never creates habit. Settled tendencies only bring about thoughtlessness.

Why is one thoughtless? Because to think is painful, it creates disturbances, it brings opposition, it may cause one’s actions to go contrary to the established pattern.

To think-feel extensionally, to b

ecome choicelessly aware may lead to unknown depths, and the mind rebels against the unknown; so it moves from the known to the known, from habit to habit, from pattern to pattern. Such a mind never abandons the known to discover the unknown.

Realizing the pain of thought, the thinker becomes thoughtless through copying, through habit; being afraid to think, he creates patterns of thoughtlessness.

As the thinker is afraid, his actions are born of fear, and then he regards his actions and tries to change them.

The thinker is afraid of his own creations; but the deed is the doer, so the thinker is afraid of himself. The thinker is fear itself; the thinker is the cause of ignorance, of sorrow.

The thinker may divide himself into many categories of thought, but the thought is still the thinker. The thinker and his efforts to be, to become, are the very cause of conflict and confusion.

The Book of Life, September 10, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:12 am

This choiceless awareness

Great seers have always told us to acquire experience. They have said that experience gives us understanding. But it is only the innocent mind, the mind unclouded by experience, totally free from the past—it is only such a mind that can perceive what is reality.

If you see the truth of that, if you perceive it for a split second, you will know the extraordinary clarity of a mind that is innocent.

This means the falling away of all the encrustations of memory, which is the discarding of the past. But to perceive it, there can be no question of “how.”

Your mind must not be distracted by the “how,” by the desire for an answer. Such a mind is not an attentive mind.

As I said earlier in this talk, in the beginning is the end. In the beginning is the seed of the ending of that which we call sorrow.

The ending of sorrow is realized in sorrow itself, not away from sorrow. To move away from sorrow is merely to find an answer, a conclusion, an escape; but sorrow continues.

Whereas, if you give it your complete attention, which is to be attentive with your whole being, then you will see that there is an immediate perception in which no time is involved, in which there is no effort, no conflict; and it is this immediate perception, this choiceless awareness that puts an end to sorrow.

The Book of Life, October 10, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:22 am

Why should the omnipotent Divine manifest in a human form?

The evil deeds of the wicked and the good deeds and yearning of the righteous, are responsible for the advent of Avatars.

The Divine descends in response to the yearning and actions of people.

Here are two simple examples:-
1. Crops grown on the ground look up to the skies for rain. They cannot reach up to the clouds. So, the clouds come down in the form of rain to provide water to the crops.

2. There is an infant crawling on the floor. It wants its mother but it cannot jump up to her. So, the mother bends down, takes the child and caresses it to make it happy.

In the same manner, to offer relief to devotees, to nurture, protect and foster them, the Divine comes in the human form to give them joy.

- Divine Discourse, Sep 15, 1988.

The Divine is the nearest, the dearest, the most loving, the most eager companion,
comrade and kinsman of every individual.

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:45 am

What is the self?

The search for power, position, authority, ambition and all the rest, are the forms of the self in all its different ways. But what is important is to understand the self and I am sure you and I are convinced of it.

If I may add here, let us be earnest about this matter; because I feel that if you and I as individuals, not as a group of people belonging to certain classes, certain societies, certain climatic divisions, can understand this and act upon this, then I think there will be real revolution.

The moment it becomes universal and better organized, the self takes shelter in that; whereas, if you and I as individuals can love, can carry this out actually in everyday life, then the revolution that is so essential will come into being...

You know what I mean by the self? By that, I mean the idea, the memory, the conclusion, the experience, the various forms of namable and unnamable intentions, the conscious endeavor to be or not to be, the accumulated memory of the unconscious, the racial, the group, the individual, the clan, and the whole of it all, whether it is projected outwardly in action, or projected spiritually as virtue; the striving after all this is the self.

In it, is included the competition, the desire to be. The whole process of that, is the self; and we know actually when we are faced with it, that it is an evil thing.

I am using the word evil intentionally, because the self is dividing; the self is self-enclosing; its activities, however noble, are separated and isolated. We know all this.

We also know that extraordinary are the moments when the self is not there, in which there is no sense of endeavor, of effort, and which happens when there is love.

The Book of Life, February 6, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:51 am

What is the foremost message of the Avatar?

When you fill your hearts with love, you have no ill-will towards anyone.

Cultivate the faith that the Divine is in everyone. Surrender to the Divine in a spirit of dedication.

Your love must be sweet. What you offer to the Divine must be your sweet love. Your love must be all-embracing. This is the foremost message of the Avatar.

- Divine Discourse, Aug 3, 1988.

To resurrect love and compassion, you must kill jealousy and selfishness, and purify your hearts.

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:58 am

Time provides no solution

All religions have maintained that time is necessary, the psychological time we are talking about.

Heaven is very far away, and one can only come to it through the gradual process of evolution, through suppression, through growth, or through identification with an object, with something superior.

Our question is whether it is possible to be free of fear immediately. Otherwise fear breeds disorder; psychological time invariably does breed extraordinary disorder within one.

I am questioning the whole idea of evolution, not of the physical being, but of thought which has identified itself with a particular form of existence in time.

The brain has obviously evolved to come to this present stage, and it may evolve still further, expand still more. But as a human being, I have lived for forty or fifty years in a world made up of all kinds of theories, conflicts, and concepts; in a society in which greed, envy, and competition have bred wars. I am a part of all that.

To a man who is in sorrow, there is no significance in looking to time for a solution, in evolving slowly for the next two million years as a human being. Constituted as we are, is it possible to be free from fear and from psychological time?

Physical time must exist; you can’t get away from that. The question is whether psychological time can bring not only order within the individual but also social order.

We are part of society; we are not separate. Where there is order in a human being, there will inevitably be social order outwardly.

The Book of Life, October 1, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Mon Oct 22, 2018 8:03 am

Do we really love the Divine?

Amongst the many who claim to be devotees of the Divine, only very few are real devotees.

When the elements of selfishness and egoism are present in a devotee, the Divine will take no notice of him or her.

Divine Love is present all the time. But like the cloud that hides the sun from a person, selfishness and ego of the devotee comes between His love and the devotee.

To proceed from the human condition to the Divine in man, the only means is the "Love Principle".

Worldly love cannot be equated with Divine Love (Prema). The term Prema is used in ordinary parlance to describe what is really worldly attachment.

People are attached more to names and forms than to the inner spirit of things. To get over this false attachment to external forms and names, it is essential to cultivate love in its purest form.

To manifest this love, the first requisite is to get rid of selfishness and self-interest.

- Divine Discourse, Aug 21, 1992.

To proceed from being human to Divine, pure Love is the only means. All other means are of no avail.

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