Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:21 am

Putting Aside Screens

How do you listen? Do you listen with your projections, through your projection, through your ambitions, desires, fears, anxieties, through hearing only what you want to hear, only what will be satisfactory, what will gratify, what will give comfort, what will for the moment alleviate your suffering?

If you listen through the screen of your desires, then you obviously listen to your own voice; you are listening to your own desires.

And is there any other form of listening? Is it not important to find out how to listen not only to what is being said but to everything -to the noise in the streets, to the chatter of birds, to the noise of the tramcar, to the restless sea, to the voice of your husband, to your wife, to your friends, to the cry of a baby?

Listening has importance only when one is not projecting one's own desires through which one listens.

Can one put aside all these screens through which we listen, and really listen?

- J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

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Postby winston » Sun Jan 01, 2012 9:32 am

Listen with Ease

Have you ever sat very silently, not with your attention fixed on anything, not making an effort to concentrate, but with the mind very quiet, really still? Then you hear everything, don't you?

You hear the far off noises as well as those that are nearer and those that are very close by, the immediate sounds;which means really that you are listening to everything.

Your mind is not confined to one narrow little channel.

If you can listen in this way, listen with ease, without strain, you will find an extraordinary change taking place within you, a change which comes without your volition, without your asking; and in that change there is great beauty and depth of insight.

- J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:11 pm

Meditation Is Essential to Life

To understand this whole problem of influence, the influence of experience, the influence of knowledge, of inward and outward motives, to find out what is true and what is false and to see the truth in the so-called false- all that requires tremendous insight, a deep inward comprehension of things as they are, does it not?

This whole process is, surely, the way of meditation.

Meditation is essential in life, in our everyday existence, as beauty is essential.

The perception of beauty, the sensitivity to things, to the ugly as well as to the beautiful, is essential to see a beautiful tree, a lovely sky of an evening, to see the vast horizon where the clouds are gathering as the sun is setting.

All this is necessary, the perception of beauty and the understanding of the way of meditation, because all that is life, as is also your going to the office, the quarrels, miseries, the perpetual strain, anxiety, the deep fears, love, and starvation.

Now the understanding of this total process of existence -the influences, the sorrows, the daily strain, the authoritative outlook, the political actions, and so on- all this is life, and the process of understanding it all, and freeing the mind, is meditation.

If one really comprehends this life then there is always a meditative process, always a process of contemplation,but not about something.

To be aware of this whole process of existence, to observe it, to dispassionately enter into it, and to be free of it, is meditation.

- J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:42 am

Is there any stage in spiritual progress when one can relinquish action ?

You may wonder why liberated ones should still do action.

Well, people usually follow the ideal set by those in higher levels. Their acts form the basis of Right Conduct.

If liberated ones are inactive, how are ordinary mortals to save themselves? They will have no guide and will lose themselves in the easy paths of sensory pleasures.

The duty of the wise, is to foster the right and practice it before others, so that they too may be prompted to follow, drawn by the hope of becoming as contented and as joyful as the liberated ones.

The wise have to do and get done, see and show, so that the rest might be persuaded to follow the example set by them.

The sun and the moon carry on their routine tasks; wind and fire have to perform their duties without demur. Hence, each one should perform one’s task without fail and with care.

- Geetha Vahini, Ch 6.

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:36 am

Listening Without Thought

I do not know whether you have listened to a bird. To listen to something, demands that your mind be quiet -not a mystical quietness, but just quietness.

I am telling you something, and to listen to me you have to be quiet, not have all kinds of ideas buzzing in your mind.

When you look at a flower, you look at it, not naming it, not classifying it, not saying that it belongs to a certain species; when you do these, you cease to look at it.

Therefore, I am saying that it is one of the most difficult things to listen - to listen to the communist, to the socialist, to the congressman, to the capitalist, to anybody, to your wife, to your children, to your neighbor, to the bus conductor, to the bird- just to listen.

It is only when you listen without the idea, without thought, that you are directly in contact;

And being in contact, you will understand whether what he is saying is true or false; you do not have to discuss.

- J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Mon Jan 02, 2012 12:50 pm

Beyond the Noise of Words

Listening is an art not easily come by, but in it there is beauty and great understanding.

We listen with the various depths of our being, but our listening is always with a preconception or from a particular point of view.

We do not listen simply; there is always the intervening screen of our own thoughts, conclusions, and prejudices.

To listen there must be an inward quietness, a freedom from the strain of acquiring, a relaxed attention.

This alert yet passive state is able to hear what is beyond the verbal conclusion.

Words confuse; they are only the outward means of communication; but to commune beyond the noise of words, there must be in listening an alert passivity.

Those who love may listen; but it is extremely rare to find a listener.

Most of us are after results, achieving goals; we are forever overcoming and conquering, and so there is no listening.

It is only in listening that one hears the song of the words.

- J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:03 am

It is said that one needs to be childlike to find a place in the Divine’s kingdom. As elders, what can we learn from children?

Many children are wayward and vile today, since they have no other examples to follow.

Unfortunately, parents, teachers and leaders are inflaming the passions of young minds and encouraging them onto inappropriate actions.

Along with the children, Elders too must experience "flowering or development" and lead exemplary lives of simplicity, sincerity, and steady spiritual discipline.

Children do not say one thing and do the opposite. They are very straight forward and innocent. Everyone should imbibe this nature from them, for elders have strayed far from that ideal.

Instead of saying a hundred things, it is better to do one thing properly. Sanctify your life by doing selfless work.

For the person who talks a lot, there is no time for work. Instead of wasting time in your words, use your time in service to mankind which is service to the Divine, all the while repeating the name of the Divine.

-Divine Discourse, Mar 31, 1975.

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:42 am

Your Gods Are Dividing You

What is happening in the world? You have a Christian God, Hindu Gods, Mohammedans with their particular conception of God, each little sect with their particular truth; and all these truths are becoming like so many diseases in the world, separating people.

These truths, in the hands of the few, are becoming the means of exploitation. You go to each, one after the other, tasting them all, because you begin to lose all sense of discrimination, because you are suffering and you want a remedy, and you accept any remedy that is offered by any sect, whether Christian, Hindu, or any other sect.

So, what is happening? Your gods are dividing you, your beliefs in God are dividing you and yet you talk about the brotherhood of man, unity in God, and at the same time deny the very thing that you want to find out, because you cling to these beliefs as the most potent means of destroying limitation, whereas they but intensify it.

These things are so obvious.

- J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:30 pm

To Climb High One Must Begin Low

Religious organizations become as fixed and as rigid as the thoughts of those who belong to them.

Life is a constant change, a continual becoming, a ceaseless revolution, and because an organization can never be pliable, it stands in the way of change; it becomes reactionary to protect itself.

The search for truth is individual, not congregational. To commune with the real there must be aloneness, not isolation, but freedom from all influence and opinion.

Organizations of thought inevitably become hindrances to thought.

As you yourself are aware, the greed for power is almost inexhaustible in a so-called spiritual organization;

This greed is covered over by all kinds of sweet and official-sounding words, but the canker of avariciousness, pride and antagonism is nourished and shared.

From this grow conflict, intolerance, sectarianism, and other ugly manifestations.

Would it not be wiser to have small informed groups of twenty or twenty-five persons, without dues or membership, meeting where it is convenient to discuss gently the approach to reality?

To prevent any group from becoming exclusive, each member could from time to time encourage and perhaps join another small group; thus, it would be extensive, not narrow and parochial.

To climb high one must begin low. Out of this small beginning one may help to create a more sane and happy world.

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Re: Life 14 (Jan 12 - Mar 12)

Postby winston » Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:38 pm

There is no source of evil.

There is only a Stream of Well-Being, which you are allowing, or not.

But under the name of righteousness and goodness and religion, you drop bombs on innocent children.

And then you say, "It's for the good of all of us."

And we say: we don't see that. And you don't see it from your Non-physical perspective, either.

It's only in your disconnection that those things make sense.

--- Abraham

Excerpted from the workshop in San Rafael, CA on Saturday, February 26th, 2005 # 306

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