Life 07 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:07 am

What is the most powerful weapon we must treasure?

The awareness of the Divine cannot be won by the accumulation of wealth or even by giving away of riches. Nor can it be achieved by reading texts, rising to power, acquiring degrees and diplomas, or performing scriptural sacrifices and rituals.

The body is an anthill, with the mind inside the cavity. The mind has hidden in it, the serpent named Ignorance. This serpent cannot be killed by resorting to pleasurable activities.

Spiritual Wisdom is the only weapon that can kill the serpent of ignorance. That person alone who has faith can secure this spiritual wisdom.


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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Wed Jun 23, 2010 7:27 am

Looking at Life as a Whole

When you respond only with one particular sense in that response there is division, breaking up.

Right, sir? Now, we are asking, can you respond wholly, with all your senses? Have you ever tried it, or is this something new?

- Life is a movement of learning


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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Wed Jun 23, 2010 9:48 am

Why is it important to listen to His Stories?

You must know that there is no end to the incarnations that the Divine takes. He has come down on countless occasions. Sometimes He comes with a part of His glory, sometimes for a particular task, sometimes to transform an entire era of time, an entire continent of space, sometimes with a fuller equipment of splendour.

The drama enacted by the Lord and the devotees drawn towards Him is the subject matter of stories on the Glory of the Divine.

Listening to these stories promotes the realization of the Divine. Many sages have testified to its efficacy and extolled the Glory of the Divine, and they helped to preserve it for posterity.


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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Wed Jun 23, 2010 6:21 pm

The walls of self protection

It is only when the mind, which has taken shelter behind the walls of self-protection, frees itself from its own creations that there can be that exquisite reality. After all, these walls of self-protection are the creations of the mind which, conscious of its insufficiency, builds these walls of protection, and behind them takes shelter.

One has built up these barriers unconsciously or consciously, and one's mind is so crippled, bound, held, that action brings greater conflict, further disturbances. So the mere search for the solution of your problems is not going to free the mind from creating further problems.

As long as this centre of self-protectiveness, born of insufficiency, exists, there must be disturbances, tremendous sorrow and pain; and you cannot free the mind of sorrow by disciplining it not to be insufficient. That is, you cannot discipline yourself, or be influenced by conditions and environment, in order not to be shallow.

You say to yourself, "I am shallow; I recognize the fact, and how am I going to get rid of it?" I say, do not seek to get rid of it, which is merely a process of substitution, but become conscious, become aware of what is causing this insufficiency.

You cannot compel it; you cannot force it; it cannot be influenced by an ideal, by a fear, by the pursuit of enjoyment and powers. You can find out the cause of insufficiency only through awareness. That is, by looking into environment and piercing into its significance there will be revealed the cunning subtleties of selfprotection.

- Ojai 12th Public Talk 1st July, 1934 Commentaries On Living Series 1

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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:11 am

What is the tipping point to transform ourselves?

On account of the impact of the external objects on the senses of perception, one experiences pleasure and mistakes it to be nectar. But over time, the pleasure initially mistaken as nectar turns into bitter and unpleasant poison.

This type of happiness is "sensory" happiness. If one welcomes sensory pleasure, one’s strength, awareness, intelligence to achieve the four human goals of Right Action, Wealth, Righteous Desire & Liberation are weakened; one’s interest and aspiration to attain divine bliss declines.


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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Thu Jun 24, 2010 5:27 pm

Virtue gives freedom; but cultivated humility is not virtue

She said, under the trees after the talk, that she had come to listen in case the teacher of teachers spoke. She had been very earnest, but now that earnestness had become obstinacy. This obstinacy was covered over by smiles and by reasonable tolerance, a tolerance that had been very carefully thought out and cultivated; it was a thing of the mind and so could be inflamed into violent, angry intolerance.

She was big and soft-spoken; but there lurked condemnation, nourished by her convictions and beliefs. She was suppressed and hard, but had given herself over to brotherhood and to its good cause. She added, after a pause, that she would know when the teacher spoke, for she and her group had some mysterious way of knowing it, which was not even to others.

The pleasure of exclusive knowledge was so obvious in the way she said it, in the gesture and the tilt of the head. Exclusive, private knowledge offers deeply satisfying pleasure. To know something that others do not know is a constant source of satisfaction; it gives one the feeling of being in touch with deeper things which afford prestige and authority.

You are directly in contact, you have something which others have not, and so you are important, not only to yourself, but to others. The others look up to you, a little apprehensively, because they want to share what you have; but you give, always knowing more.

You are the leader, the authority; and this position comes easily, for people want to be told, to be led. The more we are aware that we are lost and confused, the more eager we are to be guided and told; so authority is built up in the name of the State, in the name of religion, in the name of a Master or a party leader.

The worship of authority, whether in big or little things, is evil, the more so in religious matters. There is no intermediary between you and reality; and if there is one, he is a perverter, a mischief maker, it does not matter who he is, whether the highest saviour or your latest guru or teacher.

The one who knows does not know; he can know only his own prejudices, his self-projected beliefs and sensory demands. He cannot know truth, the immeasurable. position and authority can be built up, cunningly cultivated, but not humility.

Virtue gives freedom; but cultivated humility is not virtue, it is mere sensation and therefore harmful and destructive; it is a bondage, to be broken again and again. It is important to find out, not who is the Master, the saint, the leader, but why you follow.

- Commentaries on Living Series I Chapter 28 Authority

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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:03 am

So long as the animal is petted he reacts nicely

You will be able to see for yourself how you are conditioned only when there is a conflict in the continuity of pleasure or the avoidance of pain. If everything is perfectly happy around you, your wife loves you, you love her, you have a nice house, nice children and plenty of money, then you are not aware of your conditioning at all.

But when there is a disturbance - when your wife looks at someone else or you lose your money or are threatened with war or any other pain or anxiety - then you know you are conditioned.

When you struggle against any kind of disturbance or defend yourself against any outer or inner threat, then you know you are conditioned. And as most of us are disturbed most of the time, either superficially or deeply, that very disturbance indicates that we are conditioned.

So long as the animal is petted he reacts nicely, but the moment he is antagonized the whole violence of his nature comes out.

- Freedom from the Known Chapter 2

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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Fri Jun 25, 2010 10:37 am

Why should we prioritize renunciation as the primary goal?

Acquisition of positions of authority and power, of skill and intelligence which can manipulate people and things, of fame and supremacy, of personal charm, of good health and happiness or of a large family with many children or wealth… none of these can confer liberation.

You cannot attain liberation by undertaking sacrifices, vows, charities, pilgrimages or donations to holy projects.

Though the objective world appears real, you must be aware that it is deluding you. You must give up yearning for deriving pleasure from the objects that appear and attract - both here and hereafter.

Renunciation alone can lead to immortality. You will be liberated as soon as you renounce your attachment and desire.

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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:10 pm

Why is sometimes the judgement of the Divine different from ours?

The fruits of the karma or activity appeal only to those who identify themselves with the body. They do not appeal to those, who know they are the indestructible Self, which is the inner motive force in everything.

The Divine is above and beyond the limits of Time and Space. He is beyond all characteristics and qualities, no list of such can describe Him fully.

Hence, the Divine always appreciates the consciousness of Unity, as the basic motive of all acts.


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Re: Life 7 (Apr 10 - Jun 10)

Postby winston » Sat Jun 26, 2010 2:42 pm

Sorrow is the result of a shock

Sorrow is the result of a shock, it is the temporary shaking up of a mind that has settled down, that has accepted the routine of life.

Something happens - a death, the loss of a job, the questioning of a cherished belief - and the mind is disturbed. But what does a disturbed mind do? It finds a way to be undisturbed again; it takes refuge in another belief, in a more secure job, in a new relationship.

Again the wave of life comes along and shatters its safeguards, but the mind soon finds still further defence; and so it goes on. This is not the way of intelligence, is it?

- Commentaries On Living, Series 3, Chapter 36

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