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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby millionairemind » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:56 am

Wrapped up on 2 books the last few days.

1. You Can Still Make it in the market (printed in 1977) by Nicholas Darvas. I don't think it is available in Singapore. Could be out of print. You can get it from Amazon.
2. The Gone Fishin' Portfolio by Alexander Green.

You Can Still Make it in the market

Darvas is the author behind the book How I made $2MM in the market, written back in late 1950s. His strategy is essentially a "trend following" system. It is a precursor for the CANSLIM model which O'Neil perfected. This book was written after the market came off a VERY BRUTAL 1973-74 bear market when the market lost 50% of its value in a short 18months, not dissimilar to what has happened last year, which makes this book a good read.

Steps to identify stocks to buy.
1. Know the market trend
2. Buy stocks in the strongest industry
3. Buy the leaders in the strongest industry with the product and revenue/profit growth that is off the roof.

This is nothing new. The Lao Zuo Gong Jesse Livermore was one of the first Trend Followers and he used this methodology, so did Bill O'Neil, when he turned $5000 to $200K within a couple of years.

In this book, he interviewed some retail investors on their psychology coming out of the 73-74 bear market which makes interesting read. Darvas survived the brutal bear market with his capital intact as he did not like to play the short side of the market.

The Gone Fishin' Portfolio by Alexander Green


In the first 1/3 of the book, Green talked about how over the long term, mkt always trends up(quoting from Jeremy Siegel - Stocks for the long run) and the futility of timing the market (which I don't agree, of course :D). Added to the mix is all the usual crap about "how if you miss the top 10 or 20 or 30 best days in the market, you returns will be so much lesser.

He then unveiled his "Gone Fishing Portfolio" (GFP) and benchmarked it to the S&P500 from 2000-2007. Not bad. The portfolio has beaten the SP500 index every year. Losing less in bear markets and gaining more in bull markets.

His GFP is essentially a basket of funds from US to foreign mkts, TIPS and BOND funds. He uses the Vanguard group of funds due to its low expense ratio and size and advocates rebalancing only after every 12 months to avoid paying top bracket capital gains tax in the US.

After finishing the book ytd, I took it a step further and went back to Vanguard website to track all the returns for the 10 funds in 2008 to compute weighted average returns.

For me to trust an investment methodology, I always satisfy myself with backtesting to make sure that it is sufficiently robust. Here are the results.


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                                                                            Portfolio Weightage  2008 Return    Weighted Returns
        Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund Investor Shares (VTSMX)                       15         -37.04            -5.56
        Vanguard Small-Cap Index Fund Investor Shares (NAESX)                                15         -36.04            -5.41
        Vanguard Emerging Markets Stock Index Fund Investor Shares (VEIEX)                   10         -53.04            -5.30
        Vanguard European Stock Index Fund Investor Shares (VEURX)                           10         -44.73            -4.47
        Vanguard Pacific Stock Index Fund Investor Shares (VPACX)                            10         -34.36            -3.44
        Vanguard High-Yield Corporate Fund Investor Shares (VWEHX)                           10         -21.29            -2.13
        Vanguard Short-Term Investment-Grade Fund Investor Shares (VFSTX)                    10          -4.74            -0.47
        Vanguard Inflation-Protected Securities Fund Investor Shares (VIPS                   10          -2.85            -0.29
        Vanguard REIT Index Fund Investor Shares (VGSIX)                                      5         -37.05            -1.85
        Vanguard Precious Metals and Mining Fund (VGPMX)                                      5         -56.02            -2.80
        Total                                                                               100                          -31.72


So I did a $100,000 portfolio invested at the start of 2000 to see if it can really match the Gone Fishing Mentality.

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                                                   Theoretical $100K Portfolio
           Year                  GFP          SP500              GFP SP500 Index
            2000                -6.14          -9.11           93,860  90,890
            2001                -2.73         -11.89           91,298  80,083
            2002                -5.41          -22.1           86,358  62,385
            2003                32.72          28.68          114,615  80,277
            2004                15.28          10.88          132,128  89,011
            2005                11.93           4.91          147,891  93,381
            2006                16.99           15.8          173,018 108,136
            2007                10.75           5.49          191,617 114,072
            2008               -31.72          -38.5          130,836  70,154


This portfolio without doubt beats the SP500 hands down for the eighth year. Please note that the results from 2000-2007 was taken directly from the book so I assumed the author did the correct work.

No doubt that the range that it has beaten the SP500 is impressive, but the GFP compounded annualized return for 8 years is only 3.4%. Not sure if this will suffice for layman investors who like to Go Fishing.

This book is available at NLB. A good read if you are more of a passive investor who has stash of cash available.

Am trying to wrap up The Snowball and Panic this week :)
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby winston » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:14 am

Thanks MM. I read Alexander Green's columns quite often. I prefer his Spiritual Wealth articles better :)
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby b0rderc0llie » Tue Jan 27, 2009 9:28 am

millionairemind wrote:So I did a $100,000 portfolio invested at the start of 2000 to see if it can really match the Gone Fishing Mentality.

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                                                   Theoretical $100K Portfolio
           Year                  GFP          SP500              GFP SP500 Index
            2000                -6.14          -9.11           93,860  90,890
            2001                -2.73         -11.89           91,298  80,083
            2002                -5.41          -22.1           86,358  62,385
            2003                32.72          28.68          114,615  80,277
            2004                15.28          10.88          132,128  89,011
            2005                11.93           4.91          147,891  93,381
            2006                16.99           15.8          173,018 108,136
            2007                10.75           5.49          191,617 114,072
            2008               -31.72          -38.5          130,836  70,154


This portfolio without doubt beats the SP500 hands down for the eighth year. Please note that the results from 2000-2007 was taken directly from the book so I assumed the author did the correct work.

No doubt that the range that it has beaten the SP500 is impressive, but the GFP compounded annualized return for 8 years is only 3.4%. Not sure if this will suffice for layman investors who like to Go Fishing.


2008 is a recession year. The GFP might go lower in 2009 too. Using 2008's value will give a compounded return of 3.4%. If we choose a bull market year like 2007, the compounded annualized return for 7 years is (191617/100000)^(1/7) -1 = 9.7%
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby winston » Tue Jan 27, 2009 11:02 am

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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby helios » Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:13 pm

millionairemind wrote:Wrapped up on 2 books the last few days.

1. You Can Still Make it in the market (printed in 1977) by Nicholas Darvas. I don't think it is available in Singapore. Could be out of print. You can get it from Amazon.
2. The Gone Fishin' Portfolio by Alexander Green.

This book is available at NLB. A good read if you are more of a passive investor who has stash of cash available.

Am trying to wrap up The Snowball and Panic this week


:arrow: for all these recommendations, thank you MM ge!

mei mei still at 412 page of SnowBall ... ...

still reading thro' ... do you agree that W.Buffett's personal life is quite 'messy'?
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby millionairemind » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:16 pm

San,

That Mr. WB's personal life is messy, I certainly agree with you both hands.

The fact that he was so tight-fisted, even with his family when his children were young and he already a rich man, makes me wonder "Y on earth do you want to make so much money if you are not going to pamper yourself and your family with it??"

I think his mother did alot of psychological damage on him.

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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby helios » Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:01 pm

millionairemind wrote:That Mr. WB's personal life is messy, I certainly agree with you both hands.


yo, not to churn this thread as B.W. gossip thread ...

Yes, MM ... i agree with you too. why he never teaches his children about investments and business??

on the other hand, i tend to admire the intricate relationships triangles between his "flings" & a balance pivot between all parties.
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby kennynah » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:06 pm

san mei mei: did u mean "flings" as in his "lovers" :?:
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby winston » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:19 pm

It's Fun to Know: Bestselling Novels... Written on Cellphones

Move over e-books... the bestseller lists of Japan are filled with books written (and often read) on cellphones.

Known as "keitai shosetsu," these melodramatic novels use common text message shortcuts like abbreviations, emoticons, and sentence fragments. They are usually serialized and then uploaded to websites or sent to subscribers via (what else?) cellphone. But they've also been printed and/or turned into movies, and have become a cultural phenomenon along the way. Five of the top 10 bestsellers on Tohan's (a major book wholesaler) 2007 list were cellphone novels.

(Source: Christian Science Monitor and The New Yorker)
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Re: Books (Nov 08 - Feb 09)

Postby LenaHuat » Sun Feb 01, 2009 6:11 pm

PageOne at VivoCity is dishing out a good 3-for-one-price deal of S$44/50 for :
(1) Thomas Friedman's "The World is Flat"
(2) Taleb's "Black Swan"
(3) Stiglitz's "Making Globalization Works".
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