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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby winston » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:01 pm

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My most costly package was bought in 1996 at one of the other spas. It cost $10,000 for 200 sessions


What happens when a Spa closes in Singapore ? Is there an Industry Protection Fund ? Why pay Sin$10,000 upfront ?



Hotel spa shuts down; no refund on packages Channel NewsAsia

SINGAPORE: Barely five weeks after hundreds of spa customers were left stranded by Wellness Village’s sudden closure, shutters are down for another one located in a hotel — with customers told that "outstanding prepaid packages will not be refunded".

The decision by Simply Spa International looks set to spark off another round of complaints to the Consumers Association of Singapore (Case) and the Small Claims Tribunal, raising the question again if more can be done to protect consumers.

Administrative manager Lynn Koh, for one, was "shocked" when she received an email on Monday about the closure of the outlet at Parkroyal on Kitchener Road. She signed up for a 12—treatment package in July, and has "four or five" unclaimed treatments worth about $700 to $900.

But that might now be money down the drain, if Simply Spa’s director Kiri Alana Edwards’ email warning of no refunds is anything to go by.

"We took over the spa on August 1 this year. However, on Sept 28, we were advised to close the spa due to licensing issues. Since this time, we have tried to resolve such licensing issues as well as various other issues with the previous owner.

"Unfortunately, we have not been able to resolve these issues and therefore the spa will not be re—opening," wrote Ms Edwards.

MediaCorp emailed her for further details, but she replied: "As this matter is the subject of pending litigation, I’ve been advised not to comment."

A check with the Accounting and Corporate Regulatory Authority showed the company to be "live". Its shareholders are New Zealanders Ms Edwards and Mr Brandon Patrick Edwards.

Its website states that the spa was established in 2004 and moved to its present location last year.

Yesterday, its doors were shut and a notice from the hotel management said it was closed until further notice.

Responding to queries, a hotel spokesperson said the spa is its tenant, and the hotel has not been officially informed of the company’s permanent closure. The hotel is directing all enquiries to the spa itself.

Case executive director Seah Seng reiterated his call for the spa industry to better protect consumers through an insurance scheme that would reimburse consumers when a spa closes, for instance. It has also asked the Association of Banks Singapore to ask banks to pay spas in instalments when customers prepay with their credit cards.

According to Case, the number of spa, beauty or wellness closures has decreased in the past three years. There were 13 closures in 2007, seven in 2008, and five so far this year, excluding Simply Spa.

"But it doesn’t matter if it’s one or two closures," Mr Seah said. "Whenever a spa closes, hundreds of customers are affected and it’s very damaging to the image of the industry."

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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby Musicwhiz » Sun Dec 20, 2009 6:15 am

This guy was Chairman of Asia Insurance, and he didn't know the difference between "Minibonds" and "Bonds"? I find it quite incredulous! :shock:

Hmm, also it seems he made a pile of money in properties. Seems like the rich people usually do. :D

Dec 20, 2009
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Savvy saver enjoying retirement now

Insurance, bonds and properties make up portfolio of former chairman
By Lorna Tan, Senior Correspondent

Since retiring in 2007, Mr Tan, seen here with wife Catherine, has been pursuing music, his first love. The 58-year-old is an accomplished pianist. -- ST PHOTO: SAMUEL HE

Despite his background in finance, Mr Tan Kah Tee, former chairman of local insurer Asia Insurance, mistook minibonds for bonds.

The result? He lost the $30,000 which he had invested in Lehman Brothers, which collapsed spectacularly last year.

His other investments, however, have thankfully been much safer.

Mr Tan, 58, graduated from the London School of Economics with a bachelor's degree in economics with honours in 1973.

With the encouragement of his late father Tan Eng Chin, the former managing director of Asia General Holdings, he pursued a second degree in actuarial science at the City University in London and graduated in 1980.

Asia General Holdings is the parent firm of both Asia Insurance and Asia Life. His late father was chairman of the two subsidiaries before he became chairman of the parent firm.

After obtaining his second degree, he worked in an insurance broking firm in London for a few years. In 1984, he returned to Singapore and joined Asia Life's actuarial department. He became general manager in the 1990s and was appointed chairman of Asia Insurance in 2004.

Asia General Holdings was sold in 2007 for just under $1 billion to Japan's Tokio Marine & Nichido and renamed TM Asia.

Mr Tan is comfortably retired and pursuing music, his first love. He takes weekly cello lessons and is an accomplished pianist.

His wife Catherine Teo Poh Hong, 57, retired recently as a senior programme officer at the Agri-Food and Veterinary Authority of Singapore. They have no children.

Q: Are you a spender or saver?

I have had a good saving habit since I was young. During the first 10 years when I was working, I couldn't save a lot as I was paying my car and housing loans. After they were taken care of, and my career had stabilised, I was able to save more than half of my income.

Q: How much do you charge to your credit cards every month?

I have three credit cards, and my bills average $5,000, which I settle fully each month. I withdraw $2,000 cash from the bank about once a month.

Q: What financial planning have you done for yourself?

My portfolio comprises life insurance policies, bonds and properties.

I have three regular savings endowment plans, of which two matured about five years ago. The last one is maturing next year.

My bonds are from SIA, the banks, Singapore Power and blue-chip firms. Their annual returns average 4 per cent to 6 per cent. I go for blue-chip firms with regular coupon payments. These are relatively risk-free and I can sleep well at night. I have no kids so I'm not concerned about leaving a legacy.

My brief encounter with unit trusts was not very satisfactory. I invested $10,000 of my Central Provident Fund money in a fund 10 years ago and managed to break even. I don't like the fact that expenses of unit trusts are high, and I still have to pay the fund manager whether the fund is performing well or not.

Q: Moneywise, what were your growing-up years like?

My father, who was a very wise investor, was also very frugal. He had two wives and 14 children to take care of. Whatever he recommended for the company was what he would invest for himself. He invested in bonds and blue chips like Singapore Press Holdings (SPH) and HSBC.

He taught me to be thrifty. He would always comment on whether he got value for the money he paid for each transaction. He never wasted or spent lavishly. As kids, we had very few toys to play with. I am the 10th child.

Working in Asia Insurance as a manager, my father slowly accumulated shares over the years. He became the largest shareholder about 20 years ago. He died in 2001 at 86. My mother is a housewife.

Initially, we lived in a terrace house at Everton Road which was rented from the firm. When I was seven, we moved to a 10,000 sq ft two-storey bungalow with a built-up area of 4,500 sq ft in Sennett Estate.

Q: How did you get interested in investing?

I was chairman of Asia Insurance, but running Asia Life as general manager.

The life insurance business is an investment business. Life insurance companies survive by having good investments so there is enough money to provide for death and maturity claims. It got me interested in investing.

I had hands-on experience on where to invest the life fund, which comprised premiums paid by policyholders. We managed the fund very conservatively and stayed clear of derivatives and high-risk bonds and equities. Instead, we invested in a lot of bonds and blue chips like SPH.

Q: What property do you own?

I currently own four properties, and I have bought and sold two other properties - the Teneriff and Mendon Spring.

I bought a 1,500 sq ft unit at Asia Gardens in Tanjong Pagar in 1986 when I got married for more than $300,000. The current market price is $1.7 million. If it goes en bloc, I should get more than $2 million.

In the mid-1990s, I bought a 1,076 sq ft unit at Northvale in Choa Chu Kang for $600,000. Its value has remained the same.

I also own a 2,500 sq ft penthouse in Adam Park, Bukit Timah, which I bought in 2007 for $1.6 million. It is now worth more than $2 million.

I live in all three properties. Which one I will stay in depends on my programme for that day. The penthouse is near my cello teacher's place so when I have practice, I stay there. It currently houses my two baby grand pianos.

Last month, I bought a 1,292 sq ft unit at Central Green in Tiong Bahru for $1.2 million. I just sold my 1,055 sq ft unit at Mendon Spring in Pasir Panjang. This was bought two years ago at $775,000 and sold for $728,500.

I bought a 3,000 sq ft unit at Teneriff in Sixth Avenue for $1.2 million in 2000 and sold it for $2.9 million last year.

Q: What's the most extravagant thing you have bought?

In 2004, I bought a beige BMW 545 for $317,000. I wanted to see what it was like to drive a big-litre car. I sold it this year for $90,000.

Q: What's your retirement plan?

I retired in 2007. I have been financially independent for a long time. Our monthly expenses do not exceed $7,000 a month. In my free time, I give free maths tuition to my friend's daughter, I e-mail and I am learning to play the cello.

Q: Home is now...

The apartment in Asia Gardens, which is my matrimonial home.

Q: I drive...

A light-brown Volkswagen Passat CC.

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'My father, who was a very wise investor, was also very frugal. He had two wives and 14 children to take care of. Whatever he recommended for the company was what he would invest for himself. He invested in bonds and blue chips like Singapore Press Holdings and HSBC. He taught me to be thrifty. He would always comment on whether he got value for the money he paid for each transaction. He never wasted or spent lavishly. As kids, we had very few toys to play with. I am the 10th child.'

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Q: My worst investment to date...


It was my $30,000 invested in Lehman Minibonds distributed by Maybank in 2006.

The terminology used to describe the product in the advertisement was 'minibond', so it gave me the impression that it was a special bond with higher interest that retail investors could buy.

It turned out to be a derivatives product. I didn't read the prospectus. It had a 5 per cent payout in the first year. I received a letter from the bank stating that I would not be compensated.

Q: My best investment to date...

My life policies and properties. So far, they have not failed me.

I bought a 3,000 sq ft unit at Teneriff in Sixth Avenue directly from the developer for $1.2 million in 2000. It was sold for $2.9 million last year. If Asia Gardens, where I have an apartment, goes en bloc, it is likely to be my next best investment.
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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby winston » Sun Dec 20, 2009 7:50 am

My humble comments:-

Musicwhiz wrote:This guy was Chairman of Asia Insurance, and he didn't know the difference between "Minibonds" and "Bonds"? I find it quite incredulous! :shock:


I also thought that Minibonds was a Bond Fund. As I was never interested in Bonds, I did not looked further into it. And the prospectus is probably 10 pages. Who has the time to read those stuff ? And would you understand those stuff after reading it ? In the USA and some other countries, they have regulations to promote "layman's language" in Prospectus.

The result? He lost the $30,000 which he had invested in Lehman Brothers, which collapsed spectacularly last year.


Only Sin$300,000 ? Why bother to look at it in the first place ?


Q: How much do you charge to your credit cards every month?

I have three credit cards, and my bills average $5,000, which I settle fully each month. I withdraw $2,000 cash from the bank about once a month.


About Sin$10,000 a month. Quite a frugal person. But his Annual Expenses may be more as there are alot of one-time charges that's not mentioned in the monthly expenses eg. Vacation, Car Repair etc.


In the mid-1990s, I bought a 1,076 sq ft unit at Northvale in Choa Chu Kang for $600,000. Its value has remained the same.


Bought in mid 90s and the valus is the same ? Which means that he's probably losing money it if he's to list it.


I just sold my 1,055 sq ft unit at Mendon Spring in Pasir Panjang. This was bought two years ago at $775,000 and sold for $728,500.


So property is not sure thing ?
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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby Aspellian » Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:16 pm

Musicwhiz wrote:Q: What property do you own?

I currently own four properties, and I have bought and sold two other properties - the Teneriff and Mendon Spring.

I bought a 1,500 sq ft unit at Asia Gardens in Tanjong Pagar in 1986 when I got married for more than $300,000. The current market price is $1.7 million. If it goes en bloc, I should get more than $2 million.

In the mid-1990s, I bought a 1,076 sq ft unit at Northvale in Choa Chu Kang for $600,000. Its value has remained the same.

I also own a 2,500 sq ft penthouse in Adam Park, Bukit Timah, which I bought in 2007 for $1.6 million. It is now worth more than $2 million.

Last month, I bought a 1,292 sq ft unit at Central Green in Tiong Bahru for $1.2 million. I just sold my 1,055 sq ft unit at Mendon Spring in Pasir Panjang. This was bought two years ago at $775,000 and sold for $728,500.

I bought a 3,000 sq ft unit at Teneriff in Sixth Avenue for $1.2 million in 2000 and sold it for $2.9 million last year.


I have the impression that his property investments in upmarket residential area generally made money compared to other areas.

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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby Musicwhiz » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:03 am

Interesting guy eh? He doesn't even have a wallet, yet he and his wife can spend a total of US$30,000 per month. Incidentally, US$30,000 happens to be his total passive rental income per month, so does it mean he hardly saves or has to depend on his active income to stay afloat? From this interview, he sounds like a spender rather than saver, and had the privilege of coming from a very wealthy background. ST should really try to interview more "men on the street". :shock:

Apparently, he's also not too good with equities, managing to lose 50% of his $500,000 before he exited completely. I don't agree with him that equities are a result of just market sentiment. :?

Dec 27, 2009
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Keeping a watch on property deals

Swiss watch veteran keeps very little in cash, and prefers to invest in real estate
By Lorna Tan, Senior Correspondent

Just like many Singaporeans, Swiss watch veteran and Parmigiani chief executive Jean-Marc Jacot's first investment experience was in stocks.

He was 21 and a university student at Ipag, a business school in Paris. He set up an investment club for students at Ipag and decided to use the US$20,000 monetary gift from his grandmother to buy his first shares. He was lucky in his first few transactions and his investment doubled soon after.

'I thought the share market was a goldmine. It was only a few years later that I realised that to continue to do well in shares, you need to be a professional and spend time to monitor it daily,' said Mr Jacot, 60.

Some 15 years ago, he liquidated his share portfolio and concentrated entirely on real estate. Now, he owns 11 properties in Switzerland and France, eight of which are rented out, providing him a total monthly rental income of about US$30,000 (S$42,260).

Mr Jacot graduated from Ipag in 1972 and joined a United States watch firm in Germany as an assistant to the marketing director. Two years later, he crossed over to fashion house Cartier in Paris. In 1978, he partnered the founder of shoe firm Charles Jourdan to set up an accessories division.

He moved back to Switzerland in 1980 and worked for Omega as an international director for a year till he joined watch firm Ebel where he stayed till 1993.

On the side, in 1982, and with US$17,000, he set up a firm managing sports events and sportsmen. He would sell the business for US$10 million two decades later.

In 1992, he set up his consulting firm JMJ & Partners with US$50,000. The firm now achieves an annual turnover of US$500,000.

He joined Gerald Genta in 1995, and in 2000, he moved to Sandoz Foundation, which owns Parmigiani.

Mr Jacot was in Singapore last month to launch the new Parmigiani Pershing watch collection at Yafriro, Paragon. He is married to Christine, 57, and they have two children: Geraldine, 31, and Alexis, 26.

Q: Are you a spender or saver?

I'm more of a spender. I enjoy buying things that I like, such as watches and paintings. It is difficult for me to resist. When I was in my 30s, I used to own cars like Bentley and Porsche. I save about 20 per cent of my income annually. I keep very little in cash, preferring to invest in properties.

Q: How much do you charge to your credit cards every month?

I don't know how much I charge to my credit cards every month. Too much, I suspect. I have six credit cards and some cash which I carry in my pockets. I do not have a wallet.

Q: What financial planning have you done for yourself?

My wealth comes from my income and good stock options. The bulk of my investments are now in properties.

I was interested in stocks in my younger days but later realised that the value of stocks may not have anything to do with the value of the firms. It depends on market sentiment. To make money, it is better to have control over what you invest in.

When I liquidated my stock portfolio, I lost half of the S$500,000 I had invested in stocks.

Q: Moneywise, what were your growing-up years like?

My father worked as a chief executive in a machinery and tools business. My mother was a housewife. I have an older sister. We lived in a three-storey house in Neuchatel, Switzerland, and I had a wonderful childhood. My father was both a saver and a spender. He taught me that money is important but not the most important thing in life. I learnt from my parents not to judge people in terms of monetary value. Respect people for what they are and not what they have.

Q: How did you get interested in real estate investments?

My father advised me that the best long-term investments are in brick and mortar. The value of property goes up slowly but it always trends upwards due to limited space and increasing populations. In the short term, it may not be the best investment.

Q: What properties do you own?

I have two homes in France. Besides the family home in St Tropez, I have a three-storey house in a countryside village in the centre of France. The built-up area of the latter is 200 sq m and the land area is 2,000 sq m. I bought it 16 years ago for US$500,000 and it is now worth US$2 million. I use it twice a year.

In Geneva, Switzerland, I have eight properties that I rent out, besides the condominium that I live in. The largest rental property is a 400 sq m penthouse with a terrace. I bought it in 1997 for US$1.9 million, and it is valued at about US$3 million now. I'm renting it out for US$7,000 a month. The rest of the rental properties were bought in 1988, 2001 and 2002. They average about 150 sq m and they cost about US$7 million in all. My total rental income comes close to US$30,000.

Q: What's the most extravagant thing you have bought?

I bought a Parmigiani watch for US$30,000 six years ago. I have 80 watches now.

Q: What's your retirement plan?

I do not plan to retire. What I hope is to have good health and to be able to work in a different place every two to three months. I'm happy to do what I'm doing... developing brands and I don't wish to stop. My wife and I spend about US$30,000 a month.

Q: Home is now...

A three-bedroom 300 sq m condo in Neuchatel, Switzerland which I bought for US$1.5 million five years ago. The value would have risen by about 10 per cent since.

Q: I drive...

A four-wheel drive, a black Volkswagen Touareg.

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Best long-term investment

My father advised me that the best long-term investments are in brick and mortar. The value of property goes up slowly but it always trends upwards due to limited space and increasing populations. In the short term, it may not be the best investment.

Respect for others

My father was both a saver and a spender. He taught me that money is important but not the most important thing in life. I learnt not to judge people in terms of monetary value from my parents. Respect people for what they are and not what they have.

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Q: My worst investment to date...

In 1994, I created a watch firm which made watches for an external brand. I had to close the business in 2005 when the principal failed to renew its licence with us. I invested US$4 million in that firm and lost all of it.

I learnt that to succeed in investments, I need to be in control. In this case, I had no control over the licence. I could make the money again, so losing US$4 million was not so bad. What hurt me was letting go of the team in my firm which helped create the watches.

Q: My best investment to date...

It is my house in St Tropez. I bought it 20 years ago at US$800,000 and it is now worth between US$5 million and US$6 million. The house is divided into two units, on the land area of 6,000 sq m. The kids use one unit and my wife and I, the other. We use the house several times a year.
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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby winston » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:34 am

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On the side, in 1982, and with US$17,000, he set up a firm managing sports events and sportsmen. He would sell the business for US$10 million two decades later.

In 1992, he set up his consulting firm JMJ & Partners with US$50,000. The firm now achieves an annual turnover of US$500,000.


If the market is going to be trendless for the next few years, it may actually be better to spend the time building a business rather than watching the markets.


I have 80 watches now.


Hmmm.... As long as he can afford it and it makes him happy, why not ? Money is supposed to make you happy. You cant bring it along anyway ..


I'm happy to do what I'm doing... developing brands and I don't wish to stop.


Agree. A lot of people degenerate after they retire.


In 1994, I created a watch firm which made watches for an external brand. I had to close the business in 2005 when the principal failed to renew its licence with us. I invested US$4 million in that firm and lost all of it.


Building a business is also not a sure thing. In this case, after 9 years, he lost everything :(
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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby iam802 » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:18 pm

Aspellian wrote:
Musicwhiz wrote:Q: What property do you own?

I currently own four properties, and I have bought and sold two other properties - the Teneriff and Mendon Spring.

I bought a 1,500 sq ft unit at Asia Gardens in Tanjong Pagar in 1986 when I got married for more than $300,000. The current market price is $1.7 million. If it goes en bloc, I should get more than $2 million.

In the mid-1990s, I bought a 1,076 sq ft unit at Northvale in Choa Chu Kang for $600,000. Its value has remained the same.

I also own a 2,500 sq ft penthouse in Adam Park, Bukit Timah, which I bought in 2007 for $1.6 million. It is now worth more than $2 million.

Last month, I bought a 1,292 sq ft unit at Central Green in Tiong Bahru for $1.2 million. I just sold my 1,055 sq ft unit at Mendon Spring in Pasir Panjang. This was bought two years ago at $775,000 and sold for $728,500.

I bought a 3,000 sq ft unit at Teneriff in Sixth Avenue for $1.2 million in 2000 and sold it for $2.9 million last year.


I have the impression that his property investments in upmarket residential area generally made money compared to other areas.

Location, location, location.


Another factor can be timing. He did not mention when he bought the property at Choa Chu Kang (apart from mid-90s).

So, if we assume that it was bought in 1996, that would be just before the Asian Financial Crisis.
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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby b0rderc0llie » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:12 pm

winston wrote:If the market is going to be trendless for the next few years, it may actually be better to spend the time building a business rather than watching the markets.


If the market is going to be trendless for the next few years, we can make a lot of money by betting that the market is going to be trendless for the next few years :)
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Re: Me and My Money Series (Sunday Times)

Postby winston » Sun Dec 27, 2009 3:17 pm

Ha Ha ... true. Unfortunately, I dont have those options vehicles at my disposal :(
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