Life 30 (Jun 18 - Oct 18)

Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:55 am

Memory negates love

Is it possible to love without thinking? What do you mean by thinking? Thinking is a response to memories of pain or pleasure. There is no thinking without the residue which incomplete experience leaves.

Love is different from emotion and feeling. Love cannot be brought into the field of thought; whereas feeling and emotion can be brought.

Love is a flame without smoke, ever fresh, creative, joyous. Such love is dangerous to society, to relationship. So, thought steps in, modifies, guides it, legalizes it, puts it out of danger; then one can live with it.

Do you not know that when you love someone, you love the whole of mankind? Do you not know how dangerous it is to love man? Then, there is no barrier, no nationality; then, there is no craving for power and position, and things assume their values. Such a man is a danger to society.

For the being of love, the process of memory must come to an end. Memory comes into being only when experience is not fully, completely understood.

Memory is only the residue of experience; it is the result of a challenge which is not fully comprehended. Life is a process of challenge and response. Challenge is always new but the response is ever old.

This response, which is conditioning, which is the result of the past, must be understood and not disciplined or condemned away. It means living each day anew, fully and completely.

This complete living is possible only when there is love, when your heart is full, not with the words nor with the things made by the mind. Only where there is love, memory ceases; then every movement is a rebirth.

The Book of Life, May 12, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Fri Jul 20, 2018 9:52 am

What is the best insurance plan available to us?

You insure life because you are not quite sure of it, isn't it? To assure yourselves of a comfortable life, you are persuaded to insure and pay premium.

But the Divine alone can guard you against the terror of death. You can derive happiness by controlling and conquering the mind and the senses.

Iron and steel are produced in blast furnaces, where ore is melted and other components are added. The molten iron is carried in pails by cranes and poured by ladles. Though the ladle handles heat, it is immune to it. The crane holds other materials, but does not hold itself!

The mind is like that. It holds, it manipulates, it handles all other things but it cannot carry itself or manipulate and transmute itself! The mind cannot hold the holder, that is to say, the Inner Motivator, Divine.

So in order to save yourselves from the waywardness of the mind and its minions, you have to hold on to the 'Holder’.

- Divine Discourse, Mar 11, 1968.

Everyone has the right to earn and deserve the Divine’s bounteous Grace.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Fri Jul 20, 2018 12:52 pm

How does Divine Love look and feel?

Love exists for love and nothing else; it is spontaneous and imparts delight.

Love sees with the heart, not eyes. It listens not through ears but with tranquility of your heart. It speaks not with tongue but using compassion.

Love has many synonyms – compassion and kindness also mean Love. Love can emanate only from the heart and not any other source. Love is immortal, nectarous, blissful and infinite.

A heart filled with love is boundless. Just as rivers with different names merge in the ocean and become one with it, love in many forms enters the ocean of your heart and merges with it.

Your thoughts, words and looks should be filled with love. This is divine love. One saturated with divine love can never be subject to suffering.

People today are affected by praise or blame. But those filled with divine love transcend praise or censure. They are unaffected by criticism or flattery, and treat joy and sorrow, profit and loss, victory and defeat, alike.

- Divine Discourse, Dec 25, 1995.

There is no nobler quality in the world than love. Love is wisdom; Love is righteousness. Love is Wealth and Truth.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Sat Jul 21, 2018 10:04 am

What is accumulated is not truth

As long as there is the experiencer remembering the experience, truth is not.

Truth is not something to be remembered, stored up, recorded, and then brought out. What is accumulated is not truth.

The desire to experience creates the experiencer, who then accumulates and remembers. Desire makes for the separation of the thinker from his thought; the desire to become, to experience, to be more or to be less, makes for division between the experiencer and the experience.

Awareness of the ways of desire is self-knowledge. Self-knowledge is the beginning of meditation.

The Book of Life, August 20, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Sat Jul 21, 2018 4:56 pm

Why is spiritual education the need of the hour?

The "Science of the Self" alone can fix the mind in Dharma.

The students here will be given a glimpse of that Inner Self; they will develop a keen desire to know about it.

It is that knowledge and desire that will stand them in good stead when they encounter the problems of life.
A son told his father, "the father who ds his son to the Divine, is the only father who deserves the reverence due to that role."

Fathers who lead their sons into the vortex of sense pleasure, the volcanoes of physical passion, the boggy marsh of pride and pomp are unaware of their duties and responsibilities.

So too, an educational system that keeps children away from the Divine - the only refuge, the only kinsman, the only guide and guard - is really a system where the blind are engaged in blinding those who depend on them.

- Divine Discourse, Jul 22, 1968.

The father, the mother and the teacher are the three primarily responsible for molding the future of a Nation.

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Re: Life 29 (Nov 17 - Aug 18)

Postby winston » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:26 am

The disorder that time creates

So time means moving from "what is" to “what should be.”

I am afraid, but one day I shall be free of fear; therefore, time is necessary to be free of fear—at least, that is what we think.

To change from "what is" to “what should be” involves time. Now, time implies effort in that interval between "what is" and “what should be.”

I don’t like fear, and I am going to make an effort to understand, to analyze, to dissect it, or I am going to discover the cause of it, or I am going to escape totally from it. All this implies effort—and effort is what we are used to.

We are always in conflict between "what is" and “what should be.” The “what I should be” is an idea, and the idea is fictitious, it is not “what I am”, which is the fact; and the “what I am;” can be changed only when I understand the disorder that time creates.

So, it is possible for me to be rid of fear totally, completely, on the instant? If I allow fear to continue, I will create disorder all the time; therefore, one sees that time is an element of disorder, not a means to be ultimately free of fear.

So there is no gradual process of getting rid of fear, just as there is no gradual process of getting rid of the poison of nationalism. If you have nationalism and you say that eventually there will be the brotherhood of man, in the interval there are wars, there are hatreds, there is misery, there is all this appalling division between man and man; therefore, time is creating disorder.

The Book of Life, October 4, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:10 am

Why should we firmly believe in the presence of Divine, within us, and everywhere around us?

The atheists are afflicted with a fever that spoils their sense of taste; they find everything bitter. A believer feels the taste as is: bitter as bitter, sour as sour, sweet as sweet. But the person of realisation experiences all life events as sweet, filled with the Divine’s Grace.

Prahlada was such a person; he was beaten, trampled upon, and cast into fire and water, but he tasted only sweetness at all times. He overcame every calamity with the reinforcement derived from the Divine name in the heart.

There is a secret spring in the heart that will well up when the name is uttered and that will slake your thirst.

When in difficulty, pray for His guidance before jumping in any direction. Humans advice only as far as their cleverness goes, but the Divine will reveal to you the way out of every dilemma.

Ask the Divine directly and He will not only answer you but also redeem you!

- Divine Discourse, Mar 10, 1962.

Never feel dejected. Pray earnestly and the Divine will manifest wherever you are, whenever you yearn for Him.

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Mon Jul 23, 2018 11:15 am

Intensity free of all attachment

In the state of passion without a cause, there is intensity free of all attachment;

But when passion has a cause, there is attachment and attachment is the beginning of sorrow.

Most of us are attached; we cling to a person, to a country, to a belief, to an idea, and when the object of our attachment is taken away or otherwise loses its significance, we find ourselves empty, insufficient.

This emptiness we try to fill by clinging to something else, which again becomes the object of our passion.

The Book of Life, March 14, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:31 pm

We receive many gifts from Nature, but what is the greatest gift she can bestow and how do we deserve it?

Nature is a great store, where all things that help you grasp the truth are found.

That truth is first cognised as, “All this is imbued with Divinity, directed by and composed of Divinity”.

Then the seeker rises to a greater awareness of, “All this is Divinity” only it appears as something else for a time to the unopened eyes.

The final state is one where there is not even an, “All this” to be posited as Divinity; there is just Divinity: the one and only.

This lesson is learnt by people when they study Nature, analysing it and trying to understand it.

It is at the mother’s lap that the child learns the art of living; so also it is Nature that teaches one how to succeed in the hard struggle and win supreme peace.

Break the laws of Nature, and she boxes you in the ear; obey her commands and listen to her warnings, and she will pass on to you your heritage of immortality.

- Divine Discourse, Jun 3, 1962.

Devotion to the Divine will give you bliss, prosperity and peace.

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Re: Life 30 (Jun 18 - Nov 18)

Postby winston » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:49 pm

Perception of truth is immediate

The verbal state has been carefully built up through centuries, in relation between the individual and society; so the word, the verbal state is a social state as well as an individual state.

To communicate as we are doing, I need memory, I need words, I must know English, and you must know English; it has been acquired through centuries upon centuries.

The word is not only being developed in social relationships, but also as a reaction in that social relationship to the individual; the word is necessary.

The question is: it has taken so long, centuries upon centuries, to build up the symbolical, the verbal state, and can that be wiped away immediately?...

Through time, are we going to get rid of the verbal imprisonment of the mind, which has been built up for centuries? Or must it break immediately?

Now, you may say, “It must take time, I can’t do it immediately.” This means that you must have many days, this means a continuity of what has been, though it is modified in the process, till you reach a stage where there is no further to go.

Can you do that? Because we are afraid, we are lazy, we are indolent, we say “Why bother about all this? It is too difficult”; or “I do not know what to do”—so you postpone, postpone, postpone.

But you have to see the truth of the continuation and the modification of the word. The perception of the truth of anything is immediate—not in time.

Can the mind break through instantly, on the very questioning? Can the mind see the barrier of the word, understand the significance of the word in a flash and be in that state when the mind is no longer caught in time?

You must have experienced this; only it is a very rare thing for most of us.

The Book of Life, May 20, Harper San Francisco, 1995

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