Philosophy

[la papillion]

Does this title of the track attracts you?

If it does, then you're free to join me for a philosophical discussion on everyday events and ubiquitous items! Philosophy, at its barest definition, is to think and to question. It need not be the high and mighty discipline reserved for the intellectuals. It is for everyone with the slightest curiosity on the ins and outs of every day life.

The aim of this thread is to question things that happen to us, to ask the who, what, why and how, so as to enlighten ourselves and lift us from the mundane routine in order to find the meanings hidden behind the obscurity of thoughtlessness

[kennynah]

why do we need to eat and sleep everyday?

[la papillion]

A simple bar of soap. We use it and yet do not think of it much.

Before we use a cup or a spoon, we'll give it a wash, so as to clean it from the dust and dirt of modern living. Yet when we use a bar of soap, did we stop to wash it first before using? I doubt many people (if any) will care to wash the soap before using it. And why not? Perhaps soap is self-cleansing. Soap is used to clean things and thus itself will be spared of dirt.

But is it true? Have you ever seen a dirty soap? We can also extend the idea of self-cleansing to erasers. We pencil a piece of paper and we erase it with a pencil. If we pencil an eraser, what do we use to erase it? Is water self-cleansing too? Will washing a cup or a spoon with water make it dirtier or cleaner? What if water is dirty, do we wash it with water too?

Ah...the meaning of this starts to form. Certain objects are self-cleansing because we attribute it with cleansing properties, perhaps due in large part from the function of the object in question. Haha, did I even make sense here?

[helios]

Will washing a cup or a spoon with water make it dirtier or cleaner? What if water is dirty, do we wash it with water too?

Ah...the meaning of this starts to form.

what kind of shapes?

why do we see raindrops, drops of oil, falling drops of molten metal are all spherical?

it is a philosophy in its own kind, isn't it?

who are you? hydrophilic or hydrophobic in nature?!

[ishak]

"If a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears it, does it make a sound?"

"If a person posts something in the forum, and no one reads it, does it make a difference?"

-- Very low read count of SBS Transit post.

[la papillion]

Haha, san, your chemicophilosophy ah?

I think I'm hydrophilic. I drink so much plain water everyday!

[la papillion]

"If a tree falls in the forest, and no one hears it, does it make a sound?"

"If a person posts something in the forum, and no one reads it, does it make a difference?"

-- Very low read count of SBS Transit post.

Ah, classic philosophical question. It is a very interesting question to ask oneself. Does the presence of 'me' make something real? Will something happen when I'm not there? It can be extended to this: does time goes on when I'm not around?

[ishak]

"Statements about material objects can be reduced to statements about ‘sense-data’"
Alfred Jules Ayer

On his phenomenalist view, talk of material objects is legitimate, but misconceived if such objects are taken to be ‘behind’ or ‘beyond’ what appears to our senses. On the standard version of this view, material objects turn out to be logical constructions out of sense-data.

Turning to Einstein's scientific view: An event about to happen, might not happen if you run away from it at the speed of light.

[la papillion]

"Statements about material objects can be reduced to statements about ‘sense-data’"
Alfred Jules Ayer

On his phenomenalist view, talk of material objects is legitimate, but misconceived if such objects are taken to be ‘behind’ or ‘beyond’ what appears to our senses. On the standard version of this view, material objects turn out to be logical constructions out of sense-data.

This is interesting!

Did you know for young children (babies, actually), they have problems visualizing what must be inferred. Let's say they see a ball. We put a box to cover the ball. To them, the ball disapppeared, but to us, the ball is inside the box. But how do we 'know' the ball is inside the box when we can't see it?! That's why babies find it very amusing when we cover our faces with our hands. To them, we simply disappeared and reappear when we remove our hands Very interesting ishak, more more pls

[ishak]

It can be extended to this: does time goes on when I'm not around?

It does and it doesn't. It depends on whether you are present to "sense" the change; the observer and the observed.

If you met your young nephew years ago and have not met him since then, it will seems to you that he is still at the same age in your mind. And if you will never ever come into contact with him again, it does not really matter whether he ages or not, time for him to you has stop.